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    Default Re: Back in the Hobby after 8 years and got a Stocking/Equip List Please Advise

    I also just got my tank today and am super stoked!



    Thanks for all the help so far you guys! I am very grateful!

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    Default Re: Back in the Hobby after 8 years and got a Stocking/Equip List Please Advise

    Quote Originally Posted by Seņor Discus View Post
    Why would starting with 4-5" discus be less of a headache? Isn't it cool to see them grow up?

    This was one of the stores that had the not so best of the best. I would have to say that was X-treme Fish and Pets or the Fish Gallery.

    I see your point about the lila. I was honestly wanting a carpeting plant as they look cool, but I could see how they can be a pain to keep clean.

    I see what you mean about the big mix. I am going to keep it simple. I got my stocking list, it is just on the computer at work. I will post it tomorrow though!
    Hi Seņor Discus, if you are asking why start with larger discus you have not done enough homework. While I know you have stated that you have kept a variety of other fish discus are different. In your opening post I see several beginner mistakes. Before adding plants, community fish and please, do not add snails (carry parasites) just keep a group of six or more discus 4 inches or larger. Get your feet wet with larger discus as they are way more forgiving.

    If you decide to start with smaller discus raise them in a BB tank with large daily water changes. They need plenty of fresh water and food to grow properly. We have had many beginners come here trying to raise discus under the conditions in you describe in your first post and run into a variety of issues. Issues include sick and/or stunted discus.

    Please read the stickies in the beginner section of the forum, here's a few to start with;

    http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...CH-THIS-VIDEO!

    http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...hat-not-to-buy

    http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...ed-with-Discus

    There are other stickies also worth reading. Please check them out.
    Pat
    Last edited by Second Hand Pat; 03-23-2018 at 07:59 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Second Hand Pat View Post
    Hi Seņor Discus, if you are asking why start with larger discus you have not done enough homework. While I know you have stated that you have kept a variety of other fish discus are different. In your opening post I see several beginner mistakes. Before adding plants, community fish and please, do not add snails (carry parasites) just keep a group of six or more discus 4 inches or larger. Get your feet wet with larger discus as they are way more forgiving.

    If you decide to start with smaller discus raise them in a BB tank with large daily water changes. They need plenty of fresh water and food to grow properly. We have had many beginners come here trying to raise discus under the conditions in you describe in your first post and run into a variety of issues. Issues include sick and/or stunted discus.

    Please read the stickies in the beginner section of the forum, here's a few to start with;

    http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...CH-THIS-VIDEO!

    http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...hat-not-to-buy

    http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...ed-with-Discus

    There are other stickies also worth reading. Please check them out.
    Pat
    I was unaware of the needs of smaller discus, I will look for anything 4"-5" now thank you.
    I have seen the long video already and have also read the what not to buy post.
    I will refrain from adding too many other fish as well. Perhaps just the Discus, some cardinals, and some cories. I will try to get all the discus at once and from the same store if possible. I doubt that will happen but it is a shot. Thank you so much for the advice Second Hand!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Second Hand Pat View Post
    Hi Seņor Discus, if you are asking why start with larger discus you have not done enough homework. While I know you have stated that you have kept a variety of other fish discus are different. In your opening post I see several beginner mistakes. Before adding plants, community fish and please, do not add snails (carry parasites) just keep a group of six or more discus 4 inches or larger. Get your feet wet with larger discus as they are way more forgiving.

    If you decide to start with smaller discus raise them in a BB tank with large daily water changes. They need plenty of fresh water and food to grow properly. We have had many beginners come here trying to raise discus under the conditions in you describe in your first post and run into a variety of issues. Issues include sick and/or stunted discus.

    Please read the stickies in the beginner section of the forum, here's a few to start with;

    http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...CH-THIS-VIDEO!

    http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...hat-not-to-buy

    http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...ed-with-Discus

    There are other stickies also worth reading. Please check them out.
    Pat
    SHP, I was unaware of their needs at smaller sizes. I have since then done my research and yo are right, I will be going with 4"-5" Discus. I assumed they would have needed similar care. Thank you for the info, that's what forums are for ay? Also I have taken a look at the stickies, very helpful! I had already seen the one Joey posted, that one was helpful.

    So I have another question regarding KH.
    My pH is 7.4, KH is 80 ppm and GH is 120 ppm, I wanted to know if adding acid buffer to my aquarium to drop the pH to 6.6ish and leaving the hardness alone as I don't have RO water would be okay for Discus. Or must I mix my tap with RO as there is no way to remove TDS from water chemically i.e. with an additive. Thanks guys for the help!

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    Default Re: Back in the Hobby after 8 years and got a Stocking/Equip List Please Advise

    Quote Originally Posted by Second Hand Pat View Post
    Hi Seņor Discus, if you are asking why start with larger discus you have not done enough homework. While I know you have stated that you have kept a variety of other fish discus are different. In your opening post I see several beginner mistakes. Before adding plants, community fish and please, do not add snails (carry parasites) just keep a group of six or more discus 4 inches or larger. Get your feet wet with larger discus as they are way more forgiving.

    If you decide to start with smaller discus raise them in a BB tank with large daily water changes. They need plenty of fresh water and food to grow properly. We have had many beginners come here trying to raise discus under the conditions in you describe in your first post and run into a variety of issues. Issues include sick and/or stunted discus.

    Please read the stickies in the beginner section of the forum, here's a few to start with;

    http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...CH-THIS-VIDEO!

    http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...hat-not-to-buy

    http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...ed-with-Discus

    There are other stickies also worth reading. Please check them out.
    Pat
    I checked out the stickies thank you SHP. I also wasn't aware of their needs as young fish so thanks for that advice as well. I am going to go ahead and stock it with

    7 Discus 4"-5"
    15 Cardinal Tetras
    7 Cory Cats
    2 Bristlenose Plecos

    Thanks for all the advice guys!

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    Default Re: Back in the Hobby after 8 years and got a Stocking/Equip List Please Advise

    Don't mess with your water parameters . It isn't necessary at all and it can be very dangerous on top of that .
    Small discus require a lot of care . That is a lot of feedings and waterchanges on a daily level . Grown ups are more tolerant to the water quality and they can get away without many feedings per day and w/o daily water changes .

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    Default Re: Back in the Hobby after 8 years and got a Stocking/Equip List Please Advise

    Quote Originally Posted by Seņor Discus View Post
    SHP, I was unaware of their needs at smaller sizes. I have since then done my research and yo are right, I will be going with 4"-5" Discus. I assumed they would have needed similar care. Thank you for the info, that's what forums are for ay? Also I have taken a look at the stickies, very helpful! I had already seen the one Joey posted, that one was helpful.

    So I have another question regarding KH.
    My pH is 7.4, KH is 80 ppm and GH is 120 ppm, I wanted to know if adding acid buffer to my aquarium to drop the pH to 6.6ish and leaving the hardness alone as I don't have RO water would be okay for Discus. Or must I mix my tap with RO as there is no way to remove TDS from water chemically i.e. with an additive. Thanks guys for the help!
    There is no need to change the ph for domestic discus. Using an acid buffer will just make your ph bounce which is not good for the fish.
    Pat
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    So since I added the 3 tsp of buffer as the water changes happen it will just gradually go away right? I mustn't change all the water to remove it right? I mean it seems so minimal but I just want to be safe!

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    Default Re: Back in the Hobby after 8 years and got a Stocking/Equip List Please Advise

    Quote Originally Posted by Seņor Discus View Post
    So since I added the 3 tsp of buffer as the water changes happen it will just gradually go away right? I mustn't change all the water to remove it right? I mean it seems so minimal but I just want to be safe!
    Water changes will take care of it.
    Pat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Second Hand Pat View Post
    Water changes will take care of it.
    Pat
    Thanks Pat!

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