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    So I currently only have a ram tank running and I thought I would share a few pics with you guys.

    Got 6 electric blue rams and 4 Dark Knight rams. These rams are all bred by a local breeder here in SA and are truly beautiful and hardy rams.

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    Very nice

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    I love electric blues and the whole look of your tank.

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    Looking good! Love the dark knights.

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    can you share any information on the Dark Knight Rams? I've not seen this cultivar previously.... I'm googling and getting nothing... ok... never mind.. found plenty.

    Around 2014 a breeder in Israel named Mishmar Hashiva started working with Rams that were a bit darker.. He worked in cooperation with the Discus breeder Danziger Discus Farm in Tel Aviv. Eventually, through selective breeding, he's obtained viable healthy true breeding fish. These are now referred to as Black Rams. However, they still retain some of the wild coloring in the body.

    Later, a breeder in Praetoria, South Africa, Marco Du Toit(did work with Powder Blue Rams and Pearlmut Rams), began working with especially dark specimens that he received from Israel, and after about a year and half obtained purely dark, healthy
    homozygoes. Further selective breeding resulted in obtaining specimens that were healthier. These he named Dark Knight Rams.
    These have been on the scene for about a year now.

    Color forms from these selective breeding programs are fascinating:

    German Blue Ram (I'm told after generations, these will always revert back to the wild form... don't know about the others below)
    Gold (xanthistic) Ram
    Powder Blue Ram
    Electric Blue Ram
    Pearlmut Ram
    Black Ram
    Dark Knight Ram

    Then of course there are the shapes, Balloon and Long Fin varieties as well (neither of which I care for).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ODwyerPW View Post
    can you share any information on the Dark Knight Rams? I've not seen this cultivar previously.... I'm googling and getting nothing... ok... never mind.. found plenty.

    Around 2014 a breeder in Israel named Mishmar Hashiva started working with Rams that were a bit darker.. He worked in cooperation with the Discus breeder Danziger Discus Farm in Tel Aviv. Eventually, through selective breeding, he's obtained viable healthy true breeding fish. These are now referred to as Black Rams. However, they still retain some of the wild coloring in the body.

    Later, a breeder in Praetoria, South Africa, Marco Du Toit (did work with Powder Blue Rams and Pearlmut Rams), began working with especially dark specimens that he received from Israel, and after about a year and half obtained purely dark, healthy
    homozygoes. Further selective breeding resulted in obtaining specimens that were healthier. These he named Dark Knight Rams.
    These have been on the scene for about a year now.

    Color forms from these selective breeding programs are fascinating:

    German Blue Ram (I'm told after generations, these will always revert back to the wild form... don't know about the others below)
    Gold (xanthistic) Ram
    Powder Blue Ram
    Electric Blue Ram
    Pearlmut Ram
    Black Ram
    Dark Knight Ram

    Then of course there are the shapes, Balloon and Long Fin varieties as well (neither of which I care for).
    You seem to have covered it lol.

    I am lucky enough to know Marco and live reasonably close to him. He works on constantly creating new strains that he wants to see and seems to just have a knack in breeding these rams how he wants.

    He is truly a great breeder in my eyes.
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    I thought balloon were just deformed?
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    Are the Dark(Black) Rams available for sale?




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    Quote Originally Posted by trose View Post
    Are the Dark(Black) Rams available for sale?




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    I don't know if he has shipped any overseas as of yet, but I don't think so.

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    Dane,
    Thanks for the information. It's nice to know there are some folks who are really meticulous with their ram breeding programs. I read an update where Marco stated he has developed lines of all his strains which are flagellate and gill fluke free (common Ramirezi maladies).


    So, no doubt you are hoping to secure a couple specimens of his latest in-development strain, the Sapphire Ram?

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