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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueDiscus View Post
    Is it legal to hunt or trap foxes where you live? Although we're not hunters, my wife works for a local hunter's organization, so I tend to think of these things.
    In Ct They sell hava heart traps at the hardware stores. Its a catch 22 of sorts. You are not supposed to kill nuisance animals out of season and in season only with a liscence. Some states allow it in defense of livestock though. There is a specific fox season in CT..Theres an open season on coyotes and woodchucks have a very long season. The reason I say its a catch 22 is you really arent supposed to relocate animals in CT.. releasing animals from one area to another is a no-no. But Thats the whole point of havaheart type trap. Most people that use them are doing so to release them somewhere else. I knew a guy near me that used one all the time for skunks! al
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    I honestly don't know. I think that it may be illegal to kill them but I don't thing it's illegal to trap them in a live trap. I will find out. I know who to ask.
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    I know it's not good to catch and release a wild animal to a different place. Here they have their territory. If dump them somewhere else they are totally lost and alone in a strang place with other animals they are not familiar with. But what else can I do? I will find out what is legal and abide by the law. The only time I break a law is when I think that the rule it totally stupid.
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    Liz, I did a little reading on relocation of nuisance animals and sounds like relocation generally results of the death of the animal or at least in Fla that seemed truth. Perhaps the better solution is to reinforce the chicken coops.
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    Pat, my chickens are free range. All my animals are, even my horse. Everyone gets along and nobody kills anyone, That's my law with my domestic animals. They abide by my law.

    I have only one dog who will chase critters off. He's the dog in my avatar. I call him Big Head. He's 10 years old but he took off like a bullet the other day after something I didn't see behind the chicken house. He likes being outside during the day and inside at night. He's in no way a killer but if he's a good runner-offer that will work well enough.

    I can't loose chicken one after one until they are all bone. I'm the head ***** here. I make the rules.
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    Liz, your chickens are out at night?
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    No. They go to their horse when the sun goes down and I lock them in for the night. We have possums. At sunrise I let them out to scratch around and eat what ever they find tasty.
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    Liz,
    Check out here...

    https://www.mdwfp.com/wildlife-hunti...ance-wildlife/ looks like you could get some info there..

    Your state has regulations for nuisance wildlife..https://www.mdwfp.com/media/254284/r...-regs-2014.pdf


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    MISSISSIPPI COMMISSION ON WILDLIFE, FISHERIES, AND PARKS
    MISSISSIPPI DEPARTMENT OF WILDLIFE, FISHERIES, AND PARKS
    Title 40: Wildlife, Fisheries, and Parks
    Part 2: Wildlife
    Part 2, Chapter
    7
    : Nuisance Animals
    RULE 7.1 GENERAL
    REGULATION FOR THE TAKING OF NUISANCE ANIMALS.
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    1, as amended, classifies nutria, beaver, fox, skunks, coyotes
    and wild hogs, as “nuisance” animals. Pursuant to the authority stated therein, the Commission
    issues this regulat
    ion for the taking of nuisance animals:
    B. Nuisance animals may be hunted, trapped, taken, killed, chased, or pursued on private
    lands.
    1. Landowners and any leaseholders may hunt nuisance animals year
    -
    round at any
    time of day or night with no weapo
    n/caliber restrictions on property titled in their name or
    otherwise owned, or leased by them.
    2. Designated agents of the landowners
    / leaseholders
    may hunt nuisance animals
    year
    -
    round at any time of day or night with no weapon
    /
    caliber restrictions, p
    rovided they have
    written permission from the landowner or leaseholder in his or her possession, when hunting
    nuisance animals. Permission letters must be signed and dated by the landowner or leaseholder,
    shall include:
    a. the contact information of th
    e landowner or leaseholder;
    b. the contact information of the permitted person; and
    c. a specific a date of expiration.
    3. Persons hunting nuisance animals during any open gun season on deer will be
    required to wear, in full view, 500 square
    inches of solid unbroken hunter orange, unless they are
    hunting from a fully enclosed stand.
    4. Nuisance animals may be hunted with the aid of electronic calls.
    5. Any part of any nuisance animal that has been lawfully taken, may be sold year
    -
    round,
    with the exception of wild hog meat, as set forth elsewhere in this rule. The only nuisance
    animals that may be sold alive are coyotes and fox per 40 Miss. Admin. Code Pt. 2, Rule 8.1
    (General Rules for Fox, Coyote and Rabbit Pens).
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    C. On public lands, the governmental entity charged with the management of said lands
    may
    or may not
    allow the taking of nuisance animals
    subject to applicable laws, rules, or
    regulations
    .
    It is the hunter’s responsibility to check with the entity managin
    g the property before
    hunting nuisance animals on those lands
    .
    E. Nuisance animals may not be hunted or pursued with dogs during the open spring turkey
    season.
    F. Live nuisance animals may not be possessed except:
    1. Coyotes in permitted coyote enclosu
    res;
    2. Fox in permitted fox enclosures, or
    3. Hogs for the purpose of slaughter in an enclosure no larger than 500 square feet
    in size and constructed in a manner that prevents the escape of any wild hog.
    G. For the purpose of this rule, “wild hog
    s” are hereby defined as any feral hog, wild swine,
    Russia
    n boar, or any pig that is not a d
    omesticated
    pet or livestock,
    or has a wild
    -
    looking
    appearance or behavior.
    1.
    No person may transport on public roads or off of the property of record where
    capt
    ured or relocate within the state any live feral hog, wild swine
    ,
    or Russian Boar
    within the
    State of Mississippi
    without first obtaining
    a Live Wild Hog Transportation Permit for each wild
    hog being transported.
    a. Permits may be obtained by contact
    ing the
    MDWFP’s
    24 hour
    Communications Dispatcher at (601) 432
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    2170.
    b. A violation of this section is a Class
    II
    violation,
    per each animal in
    violation, and
    punishable as provided in
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    143 with a
    fine of not less than
    One Hundred
    Dollars ($
    100.00
    ) nor more than
    Five
    Hundred Dollars ($
    500.00
    )
    or imprisonment
    in the county jail for not less than six (6) months, or by both such fine and imprisonment
    .
    In
    addition to the penalties provided therein, upon conviction, the violator shal
    l forfeit all hunting,
    trapping and fishing privileges for a period of one (1) year from the date of conviction.
    c. Required information for a Live Wild Hog Transportation Permit:
    i. Date and time of transportation
    ii. Name and physical address of permitee
    iii. Hunting License Number
    iv. County
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    v. Point of origin (Road or Highway No.)
    vi. Number of live wild hogs being transported
    vii.
    Physical address of the final
    destination
    viii. Descriptio
    n of the transporting vehicle and license plate number
    ix. Driver’s license number of driver of the vehicle described above.
    d. I
    ndividuals, at the time of requesting such permit:
    i. Does not
    have a history of repeat hunting offenses; or
    ii.
    Has not had his or her hunting privileges revoked
    .
    e. A Live Wild Hog Transportation Permit shall be valid for twenty
    -
    four
    (24) hours from the time it is issued
    .
    2. Wild hogs may not
    be transported within the State of Mississippi and
    released or
    removed alive from any mobile device or vehicle, except that wild hogs may be released alive for
    the purpose of slaughter into an enclosure no larger than 500 square feet in size and constructed in
    a manner that prevents the escape of any wild hog
    ,
    or to a
    facility where the hog may be
    immediately prepared for slaughter
    .
    3.
    MISS. CODE ANN §49
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    140(2)
    states, n
    o person may transport or relocate
    within the state any live feral hog, wild swine or Russian Boar and release the hog into the wild.
    Wild hogs ma
    y not be caught or trapped and released into the wild at a location different from the
    location where the wild hog was caught or trapped. A violation of this section
    ,
    upon conviction,
    is punishable as a Class I violation
    .
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    states,
    a
    ny person who has been
    convicted of a Class I violation shall be fined not less than Two Thousand Dollars ($ 2,000.00)
    nor more than Five Thousand Dollars ($ 5,000.00) and shall be imprisoned in the county jail for
    five (5) days. The person shall also fo
    rfeit all hunting, trapping and fishing privileges for a period
    of not less than twelve (12) consecutive months from the date of conviction.
    4.
    Feed / bait may be used to take wild hogs.
    Any food or food products
    may be
    used
    year round for
    the purpose o
    f taking wild hogs with the following exceptions:
    a. Grain or grain products may be used, if placed inside any legally designed
    live capture
    -
    type trapping device for the sole purpose of trapping wild hogs.
    b. From
    the day after
    the spring turkey season to the day prior to the opening
    of deer archery season
    , grain or grain products may be used, but
    may only be provided from above
    ground covered feeders or stationary spin cast feeders. Feeders may be placed in plain sight with
    no d
    istance restriction. Areas must be clear of all bait for 10 days prior to hunting game animals.
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    5. Any live cage
    -
    type trap used to trap wild hogs must be tagged or labeled in plain
    view (written in waterproof ink or stamped) with the owner or users name
    , address, phone number
    and/or trapper license ID#.
    6. All live cage
    -
    type traps must be checked every 36 hours. All non
    -
    targeted wild
    or domestic animals caught must be released immediately upon detection.
    7. A wild hog live
    -
    cage
    -
    type trap is desc
    ribed as a permanent or mobile
    containment system made of any type material capable of confining the mobility of a wild hog
    until otherwise removed. The trap must consist of a trap door, slide gate, or similar mechanism.
    The
    se traps must have at least 50
    % of the
    roof
    open
    to allow non
    -
    targeted deer, turkey, or bear
    the
    ability
    to escape.
    8. No meat or other part of a wild hog may be sold without having first been
    inspected and approved by the US Department of Agriculture and/or the Mississippi Departme
    nt
    of Agriculture and Commerce pursuant to the laws, rules, and regulations of those entities
    .
    H. Licenses needed:
    1. Persons trapping nuisance animals, other than wild hogs, must have a valid
    Mississippi trapping license, unless otherwise exempt.
    2.
    Persons trapping wild hogs must possess a valid Lifetime, All Game, Sportsman,
    or Trapping License, unless otherwise exempt.
    3. Persons hunting nuisance animals must possess a valid Lifetime, All Game, or
    Sportsman’s License, unless otherwise exempt.
    4. Persons hunting nuisance animals with archery equipment and/or with primitive
    weapons during archery or primitive weapons season must possess either a valid Lifetime
    ,
    Sportsman License
    ,
    or an All Game Hunting License and the Archery/Primitive Weapon Permit,
    unless otherwise exempt.
    I. Animal Control Permit
    for Hogs:
    1. Corn may be poured, piled, placed directly on the ground.
    2. Hogs may be killed directly over the bait.
    3. Permits may
    be issued for a period up to 6
    -
    months and may be renewed.
    4.
    Any wild hog captured under an Animal Control Permit may not be transported
    live.
    5. No other species may be hunted or killed under this permit.
    6.
    Areas must be clear of all bait for 10 days pr
    ior to hunting game animals.
    History: Revised
    July 2014
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    Source:
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    At one time i had a federal endangered permit. I had pheasant,ducks,quail & ***. birds. The damage wild amimals had on them made me sick. I used gal. after welding & turkey wire. No one from the govt. cared. They just want to make laws & feel powerful. My last silkie was taken by a red tail hawk who i diden't blame. I had a vist from nys envioral off. & i had to tell him what a wood duck was that was out of color. I will protect my pets from man or beast. Now we have mange fox again. What next?

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