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    Absolutely stunning is all I have to offer Pat not to mention real great pics especially the Manacapuru Red.

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    How long will you quarantine Pat? Also, do you treat for worms or anything while in quarantine? I’m just curious- not that I’m switching just yet, but I am going to go to the next NADA show and offer to help break down. Tee hee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pices View Post
    How long will you quarantine Pat? Also, do you treat for worms or anything while in quarantine? I’m just curious- not that I’m switching just yet, but I am going to go to the next NADA show and offer to help break down. Tee hee.
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    Hi Patty, I think I will take a move from Al's play book and deworm them. ATM I am focusing on having them eat well and not be shy. I actually at that stage now. However I will wait another week or so since I have only had the fish from the show for two weeks now. So I have two groups; A group of four wilds (three reds and a natural heckel cross) from Jimmy's Discus and the group of six from the show.

    After worming and everyone is doing well I will move the five reds and heckel cross on a biotope 230 tank. I need to redo that tank. I will leave the four young heckels in a 75 to grow them out a bit. I hope to add to both groups this wilds season. At this point quarantine is relative. I have QTed for six months before. So my goal is to have a group of wild reds and a group of heckels. I hope in the future to breed both. Reds, no problem...heckels are a different animal however.
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    Thanks for filling us in on your plans, Pat. The fish are lovely--I can see why you like the red you do, and I enjoyed seeing nice photos of the heckels (esp. #2) as I haven't had the pleasure of seeing these guys in person and sometimes tank shots from holding facilities don't give much of an idea of how nice they can be. Looking forward to following along and learning from your experiences, past, present and future.
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    Ok, I’m already learning. Maybe if I follow your thread, I won’t feel so intimidated by wilds. It does seem these were meant to be in your capable hands. Thanks for sharing this with all of us lurking around this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tshethar View Post
    Thanks for filling us in on your plans, Pat. The fish are lovely--I can see why you like the red you do, and I enjoyed seeing nice photos of the heckels (esp. #2) as I haven't had the pleasure of seeing these guys in person and sometimes tank shots from holding facilities don't give much of an idea of how nice they can be. Looking forward to following along and learning from your experiences, past, present and future.
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    Thank you Bill, hopefully these guys will continue to settle with time. Perhaps in six months you may not recognize them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pices View Post
    Ok, I’m already learning. Maybe if I follow your thread, I won’t feel so intimidated by wilds. It does seem these were meant to be in your capable hands. Thanks for sharing this with all of us lurking around this thread.
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    Thanks Patty, I could introduce you to a couple of my early wilds threads which might boost your confidence with wilds!!
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    I sure have missed a lot since my last reading here Pat.
    Your new discus looks magnificent . I wish you all the luck with keeping and breeding them in future.
    Please keep on sharing your "wild" experiences with us because it can inspire the rest of us to try wilds at some point too .

    I got couple of QTs .
    why do you keep the two groups separated , because they came from different source or ?

    Did you use your well 8.2 pH water for them at some point or they arrived and got in prepared 2/3 RO water with lower pH right from the start ?

    Is Natural heckel - cross breed from 2 wildcaught discus refrered as an F1 ? Are yours F1 heckels and reds ?

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    Thanks Filip,

    The two groups came from two sources, the three wild reds and natural heckel cross came from Jimmy's Discus (a sponsor here) and they are in one 75. The second group (two wild reds and four heckels) came from Peter Low via the 2018 NADA show. Peter is from Singapore. The second group is in a second 75 so two sources, separate QT tanks.

    Both groups are currently in my well water and are doing very well. I will transition them to an RO mix once they are in a display tank. When I say natural heckel cross I am trying to indicate that both parents were wild. I will say calling this fish a heckel cross is based solely in it's appearance where the striations do not go all the way to the tail like on a full heckel. I do not consider any of my wilds F1s. If they breed and successful had fry those would be F1s in my book.

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    So I moved one of the reds with the young heckels to the tank with the four reds. The young heckels are super aggressive with each other.

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    They seem very comfortable! Love the posturing between them

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    Pat , Kevin and his last bump up post has just reminded me how far you have neglected this thread due to your grow out challenge babies .
    i don't say that discus growout challenge thread is less fun but I would still like to see what's going on here too .

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    Default Re: Teaser

    It's been a lil while since you updated...I know you're busy with the grow out challenge updates...just wondering how are the wild's coming along Pat?

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