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    Default Re: starting bare bottom with juveniles hoping for hi-tech planted by Christmas 2020

    Oh, if you are wondering how the Sera test is to use:
    - fill big glass vial with 10 ml tank water (and the mark on the vial used to be off by as much as 2 ml, better lately)
    -add six drops of liquid 1 and shake
    -add micro-spoonful of metal powder 2,shake for 15 seconds
    -add six drops of liquid 3 and shake
    -add 6 drops of liquid 4 and shake
    Wait 5 minutes and read
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    Default Re: starting bare bottom with juveniles hoping for hi-tech planted by Christmas 2020

    Ok so,
    I'm back from my few days away with some interesting (to me anyway) on my test kit

    When I went away my ammonia was between 3 and 4 with nitrite and nitrate at 0

    Ammonia
    Untitled by Michael O’Sullivan, on Flickr
    To me this looks about .25ppm, This reduction in ammonia could be completely or partially a result of the drip system that was running at about 70% with no water being manually removed only flowing over the sump drain to the outside.

    Nitrite
    Untitled by Michael O’Sullivan, on Flickr
    Absolute zero, this suggests the ammonia is reducing because of the drip overflow. this would at least show proof of concept of the drip system being able to manage some ammonia's. I wonder how much different this would have looked with the manual removal of 70 liters a number of times a day. The same water would have gone through the system but the removal would have been different.

    Nitrate
    Untitled by Michael O’Sullivan, on Flickr
    This makes my last thoughts on the nitrites a little redundant as there is about 5 ppm of nitrate in the water. That means the cycle has well and truly begun.

    This aquarium was started completely clean without seeding from another aquarium. I did add Seachem Stability as per instructions for a week at the start of the cycle about 2 weeks ago now.

    I'M going to add ammonia at about 4ppm and leave it 24 hours to see how it processes that amount in a set period of time to know how much ammonia is being processed already !.
    This appears to be happening quicker than i expected. I'm looking forward to what tomorrow brings !!

    Mick
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    Default Re: starting bare bottom with juveniles hoping for hi-tech planted by Christmas 2020

    Ok more progress,

    Ammonia
    Untitled by Michael O’Sullivan, on Flickr
    My ammonia was about the 4 colour on the scale. As is shown in this photo its down to about .50, some serious bacteria in that stability. It seems to be working for me.

    Nitrite
    Untitled by Michael O’Sullivan, on Flickr
    This is about .25 so good progress on this too.

    Nitrate
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    About 5 on this reading.

    I've taken a reading after i added ammonia to make sure I have the amount added dialed in,
    Untitled by Michael O’Sullivan, on Flickr
    I guess this is somewhere between 2 and 4, I think closer to 4.

    I'll have a look tomorrow to see how this continues progressing

    Mick

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    We'll see how the ammonia drops over the next few hours, good to see the drip overflow is working but what is the point of having it working as the tank is cycling?

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    Hey Paul,

    In the 24 hours between yesterday and today you see a really good approx. a 3.5 point drop in ammonia. This is really on the road to cycling certainly from ammonia to nitrite with some changes on the nitrate so bacteria exists already.

    As for the drip system, its mixing ro and tap into the aquarium I'm working on stabilizing the ph in the aquarium and at the point I want it at while the aquarium is cycling. It would be a pain to have to spend another few weeks balancing the ph after the cycle finished.
    I'm not in a rush for the cycle either even though it is moving on at a pace. From the time I order my baby discus it will be approx 2-4 weeks for the lfs to get them in and another 2 weeks quarantine in the shop so that's 4-6 weeks from now so that's plenty of time at this point to get the aquarium fully cycled and the ph perfectly stable giving my best chance of some modicum of success with the babies.

    That's the theory any way

    Mick

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    Default Re: starting bare bottom with juveniles hoping for hi-tech planted by Christmas 2020

    Sounds good, things are happening fast (although bacteria that transform nitrite into nitrate are even slower to multiply than the ones that transform ammonia).

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    Thanks Paul, your information and responses are invaluable to my project!

    Mick

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    Default Re: starting bare bottom with juveniles hoping for hi-tech planted by Christmas 2020

    Just can't wait to see fish in your tank! I can imagine you must be even more eager!

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