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    Default Re: Pat's Challenger Growout Thread

    Pat I would suggest 1-2 tablespoons of salt to the water as well. It may help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Second Hand Pat View Post
    Hi Sanjay, packing was spot on. Thank Al for a great packing job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brewmaster15 View Post
    Pat I would suggest 1-2 tablespoons of salt to the water as well. It may help.

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    Thanks Al, I added that. Some of these guys are already starting to peck on the bottom so I added a tiny amount of the food you included Al and they are pecking at that. I will vacuum that up a bit later. Also thanks for the foam. Very generous piece Al
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    blisters were worth it then I guess,
    Definitely Al, hope they heal quickly!
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    Default Re: Pat's Challenger Growout Thread

    A little video to show the little guys pecking off the bottom. Tails are still a bit closed but one guy hiding under the heater.

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    Now they are collecting in the corner next to where I enter the room so guessing they are hungry. I have a "fish dedicated" coffee grinder so I grind up three FDBWs cubes into "fines" (into tiny bits of loose FDBW bits). Placed a pinch into a small container of hot water to allow the bits to adsorb water and sink to the bottom of the container. Then I take a small syringe with a bit of flexible airline hose and place that over the tip of the syringe. Now I can suck up the bits which have collected at the bottom of the container into the syringe. For a little more precision add a couple inch piece of rigid tubing to the end of the flexible airline hose and you can feed tiny amounts of those bits by adding a wee amount to just above the fish.

    They are starting to peck little bits and hopefully soon will be eating with gusto.
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    They look super, Pat. Hope mine makes it.
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    They look super, Pat. Hope mine makes it.
    Thanks Willie, I hope yours and everyone's else make it.
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    Glad to hear you got yours Pat and that they are doing OK. I have been worried about all these 11 boxes of baby discus I will follow your thread. I hope rest of the fish arrive safely to the others.
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    Default Re: Pat's Challenger Growout Thread

    Great start Pat .
    I would like to see a photo or maybe even video if possible of that syringe with tubing and how you perform this baby feeding with it .
    Also I would like to learn (this QT is maybe for Al) , why it's recommendable to put salt on the new arived fish . Is it just to heal the potential ammonia burn from the trip or is there something else too ?
    And you noticed clamped fins Al before you recommended salt .What does clamped fins means in this case ?

    And sorry for all this QTs right from the start Folks

    Good luck with them Pat and Al you've done a hell of a job packing them with all the safety precautions.

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    Default Re: Pat's Challenger Growout Thread

    Hi Filip,
    Sodium is important to the fishes body and gills actively move sodium so its thought when your fish are stressed the addition of salt makes it easier for them to function. It also sooths irritated gills and can help prevent secondary infection. It prevents nitrite poisoning in new tanks as well. Its not something thats recommended when you get new fish but its the first line of treatment I use for stressed fish.. whether they are new or not. 1 tablespoon per 10 gals can help alot. Its also not something you do all the time.. I consider it like a medicine.

    Clamped fins in this case could be from netting and then the travel.... the handling of fish strips off slime coat and can open the fish to secondary infection. Its not uncommon for fish to have some damage to their fins when netted, bagged,boxed, and netted again and tanked.
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    Default Re: Pat's Challenger Growout Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Filip View Post
    Great start Pat .
    I would like to see a photo or maybe even video if possible of that syringe with tubing and how you perform this baby feeding with it .
    Also I would like to learn (this QT is maybe for Al) , why it's recommendable to put salt on the new arived fish . Is it just to heal the potential ammonia burn from the trip or is there something else too ?
    And you noticed clamped fins Al before you recommended salt .What does clamped fins means in this case ?

    And sorry for all this QTs right from the start Folks

    Good luck with them Pat and Al you've done a hell of a job packing them with all the safety precautions.
    Thanks Filip, did Al answer all your questions regarding the use of salt and clamped fins? Also I will be happy to take a picture and/or video with the syringe. Taking a video one handed may be a little difficult but I will try.

    I was away for dinner tonight, my local camera club had it's annual banquet. The fry are doing very well tonight. I offered a wee amount of the food Al sent with the fry and everyone is eating. The small one who was hiding early today is out and about. I will attempt a small cleanup of the bottom of the tank with some water replacement. Perhaps replace the salt if needed.
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    Default Re: Pat's Challenger Growout Thread

    I did a 25% water change tonight. Wanted to see how they would accept new water. Wasn’t a big deal, they went right back into grazing mode after everything settled.

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    Default Re: Pat's Challenger Growout Thread

    Looking great Pat!

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    Default Re: Pat's Challenger Growout Thread

    they look happy as larry Pat...whoever larry is

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