Canadians and Fish Meds???????????????

[brewmaster15]

I was told today by hobbyist in Canada that they can no longer buy antibiotics for their fish without a script. Does any one have more information and a list of whats prohibited and allowed now? I was told the change was enacted DEC 1.


al

[Altum Nut]

Well you heard right Al...I've yet to read about the particulars. I noticed a BigAl's store this past weekend had no meds on the shelves.
Starting December 1st, 2018 antibiotics for veterinary use will be sold by prescription only. For more info see website of Health Canada.
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-heal...icrobials.html

...Ralph

[discuspaul]

That's news to me - I can't think of a serious logical reason why this would be prohibited here in Canada (except by way of prescription).
I can't imagine how something like that could be successfully promoted & pushed for passage by a federal government body - a veterinary association is the only medical body I can think of to do that - and would it have the clout ????

However, who knows - I may be quite wrong about this.


Having read Ralph's post just after posting this, I see that I am wrong - wow - what are things coming to in my beautiful country ! The lawmakers seem to be going overboard on a lot of matters these days !

[Altum Nut]

At least I have a few treatment meds available from my good friends online store. https://angelfins.ca/index.php?main_...f51a0298156550

...Ralph

[brewmaster15]

The person I spoke with said it was going to cost them $100.00 for metro from her vet! I know the logic behind this law but it seems like its going to be really financially lucrative to some parties at the expense of others.

Besides that .. lets consider for a moment that having a vet write a script for fish meds is much different than having one write it for your cat or dog. How many vets do you know of that would do any better than a fish hobbyist diagnosing a fish disease without an examination.How many vets do you think will be qualified as aquatic pathogists to make diagnosis even if the specimen is brought in? It doesn"t sound like its a well thought out law in practice even if its one in principal.In CT its hard to find a vet to look at my reptiles... if I had to one look at fish, itd be well near impossible.

[fljones3]

That is crazy. Next thing, they will want to license all fish with tags. Lol!
I know I signed a sheet with JEHMCO when I got metro from them, saying I would not resell or personal consumption.

[brewmaster15]

I have to laugh... from that website

Who we are working with
Over the last several years we have been engaging stakeholders about these changes. We will continue to support these actions with ongoing engagement and communication.

We will continue working with:

The Canadian Food Inspection Agency
Provincial and territorial partners (Ministries of Agriculture and veterinary licensing bodies)
Canadian Veterinary Medical Association (representing veterinarians)
Animal Nutrition Association of Canada (representing animal health nutritionists as well as feed mills)
Canadian Animal Health Institute (representing drug manufacturers)
National Producer Associations:
Canadian Cattlemen’s Association
Canadian Pork Council
Chicken Farmers of Canada
Dairy Farmers of Canada
Equestrian Canada

I Guess the Canadian People aren't considered stake holders? If I was a Canadian citizen I would be furious and let my political leaders hear it.

[megatrev62]

I believe you can still get ich meds, but I'm not totally sure on that. And knock on wood, I have never had any trouble with regards to disease other than the odd bout of ich over the last 26 years. Having said that, I won't be heading to a vet for a script for anything fish related.

[Altum Nut]

I wonder if Cannabis now that it's legal here will treat some symptoms in our fish and can bypass the vet all together...Lol

...Ralph

[megatrev62]

I wonder if Cannabis now that it's legal here will treat some symptoms in our fish and can bypass the vet all together...Lol

...Ralph

Yes cannabis the wonder drug..lol

[brewmaster15]

For what its worth.. ebay canada appears to have not gotten the memo yet.

[discuspaul]

I have to laugh... from that website


I Guess the Canadian People aren't considered stake holders? If I was a Canadian citizen I would be furious and let my political leaders hear it.

That's precisely how I feel about matters like this.
But anytime I've written or emailed to my MLA in Ottawa (Member of Legislative Assembly) I've gotten nowhere - just a very limpid, put off response from some assistant - or if I've contributed to a newspaper OPED a number of times - it gets no action whatever from any of our elected political representatives - so the taxpayer never gets a hearing of any consequence or positive result - that's not much different from the way it is in many other countries, is it ?

Perhaps it's no different in the U.S. of A., but several times in recent months, I've said to my super wife Linda:

"Maybe we should consider moving to Waco, Texas, and have Joe & Chip of "Fixer Upper", redo a $150,000. property for us, to have a home rebuilt into a 'palace' for a total reno cost of not more than $100,000., and which would cost at least 6 X more to acquire up here in Vancouver - and then we probably wouldn't give a damn what the State of Texas & Washington, D.C. politicians threw at us !" LOL

[Megalodon]

Are any of these actually useful for aquarium fish?

• Tiamulin
• Neomycin
• Bacitracin
• Tilmicosin
• Apramycin
• Penicillin G
• Lincomycin
• Erythromycin
• Virginiamycin
• Spectinomycin
• Sulphonamides
• Tylosin/Tylvalosin
• Streptomycin/Dihydrostreptomycin
• Tetracycline/Chlortetracycline/Oxytetracycline

[Altum Nut]

With the help from Google...yes some are for our aquatic pets and others for farm animals.

...Ralph

[Megalodon]

With the help from Google...yes some are for our aquatic pets and others for farm animals.

Which ones are used for fish and actually helpful?