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    Exclamation Please help sick discus could be bloat or eggbound female

    I have a pair that have been spawning since July once a week like clockwork, this is thier first try, no luck yet. They are in a 20 gallon tall with gravel substrate 1.5" depth. 1 week ago my female looked very bloated, 1 week since last batch of eggs, 48 hours later getting worse loosing color not eating and looks like now has popeye

    Very bloated.not pooping or eating. Popeye
    Lost all color.front half almost black.white stringy substance around gills


    first tried Epsom salt 2 tbs
    3 times 4 hours apart. 50% water change
    1 tsp melafix. First day
    Second day repeat. Offered peas but not interested in eating
    Third day repeat water change and salt routine also added blue meth
    Day 5 water change 50% and salt routine repeat
    Day 6 repeat day 5 and bought furan-2 API product for gill fungus nitrofurazone 170 mg
    Fish has doubled in width extreme bloat

    Tank size and ages, numbers and sizes of fish.
    20 gallon tall established in july
    2 year old 6inch discus pair

    Water change regime (What percentage and how often). 50% every 5 days
    Use well water right from tap ph is usually around 6
    I use amquel de chlorinator


    - temp 85 degrees fh

    - ph 6.5

    - ammonia reading 0

    - nitrite reading 0

    - nitrate < 5-10

    Feed frozen bloodworms. Frozen my sis shrimp
    Also flakes. 2 small meals daily
    Usually frozen food 11am and flakes around 9pm


    First picture before sickness
    Second picture today
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    Last edited by LaurieW; 11-10-2019 at 09:20 PM. Reason: Clarify pictures

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    Default Re: Please help sick discus could be bloat or eggbound female

    It looks like a pretty severe internal infection. If anything can save it, it would be something that will work on internal issues, such as Kanamycin, Ammoxicillin, tetracycline. Try pure meds. Most LFS over the counted are weak and expensive.

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    Default Re: Please help sick discus could be bloat or eggbound female

    Here's an old post on half black discus. Seems it's caused by nerve damage.http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...-is-black-(pic

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    Default Re: Please help sick discus could be bloat or eggbound female

    I agree it does look like it hit the side of the tank or another object. I was a little confused on the timeline. Did the face turn black immediately or did it progress over the week?

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    Default Re: Please help sick discus could be bloat or eggbound female

    Poop eye is easily cured with broard spectum antibiotics if caught early enough, but once swelling of the belly sets in due to kidney/tissue damage and presence edema many fish do not survive. Especially, if the scales are starting to left (dropsy). Also, you on well water. Does your well water have chlorine, most who have wells do not. Do you see any micro bubbles after a WC?

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    Default Re: Please help sick discus could be bloat or eggbound female

    I think that 50% every 5 days WC is not enough, especially in a 20g. The smaller the tank, the less stable the water.

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    Default Re: Please help sick discus could be bloat or eggbound female

    Thank you All, although my fish is a lot worse today I ordered medicine onlineScreenshot_20191111-180238.jpg

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    Default Re: Please help sick discus could be bloat or eggbound female

    Local pet stores have nothing for internal parasites, also I just noticed my melafix is expired, still smells very potent

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    Default Re: Please help sick discus could be bloat or eggbound female

    Yes lots of air bubbles, what does that mean?

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    Default Re: Please help sick discus could be bloat or eggbound female

    Melafix does nothing other than change the smell of the water, lol... Most pure meds may have to be ordered. If you use kanaplex you will probably have to double the dose. If that's your only option then you really don't have a choice... Everything else you posted will do no good in your situation. Kanaplex is the closest thing to an antibiotic...

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    Default Re: Please help sick discus could be bloat or eggbound female

    Double dosage on kanaplex? I searched for kanamysin they did not have

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    Default Re: Please help sick discus could be bloat or eggbound female

    Yeah, it's getting harder to find. Angels Plus still sells it, along with a few other specialty stores https://angelsplus.com/collections/f...erial-problems

    There are other stores that sell smaller weight for less money.

    In the mean time, i would add about 6TBS salt per 10 gallons to help slow the spread. Keep temp at 82.

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    Default Re: Please help sick discus could be bloat or eggbound female

    I know this is really bad, my fish is laying in corner gasping, I don't think my meds will arrive in time

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    Default Re: Please help sick discus could be bloat or eggbound female

    Quote Originally Posted by LaurieW View Post
    Yes lots of air bubbles, what does that mean?
    It means that you need to age your water. Gas bubbles can cause stress then disease to the fish like you wouldn't believe. Like mentioned the water needs changing a lot more than what you doing. Is there chlorine in your well water?

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    Default Re: Please help sick discus could be bloat or eggbound female

    Also, your tank looks like it crashes from low ph. At Ph of 6 from your well tells me this along with the 5 day WC. The kh is pretty much nil and has no holding power for stablity. Could be another reason your having issues. A bit of crushed coral in your filter will help in this case.

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