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[LizStreithorst]

That must have been disappointing. You came so close to success...If I were in your shoes, what with them getting closer and closer with every spawn, I'd keep letting them try. I've only given up on mine because they get to the same point, to where the eggs are just shy of wiggling, when they eat them. I hope the pair does better for you next time.

[two utes]

That's too bad Pat.....Look at it this way. You're one step closer to success

[Second Hand Pat]

The swimming at the surface is not real common or necessarily a good sign ?
There should be more or the parents are slackers ..It doesn't seem like are minding the fry at all ?
It's no joke the blacks are harder to breed and raise .
Hope fully the parents are getting better every time .
That really is how it happens .

The pair have made great strides the last couple of spawns Tom and I am patience. So no worries. The pair really do work together with no sign of any discord and I will learn with them. They tended the fry until free swimming so that is the next hurdle. As far as being harder to breed and raise, I'm up for that.
Pat

[LizStreithorst]

Don't do it unless you feel that all hope is lost. Your pair are overflowing with hope.

[Second Hand Pat]

That must have been disappointing. You came so close to success...If I were in your shoes, what with them getting closer and closer with every spawn, I'd keep letting them try. I've only given up on mine because they get to the same point, to where the eggs are just shy of wiggling, when they eat them. I hope the pair does better for you next time.

It's all good Liz but will admit to being a bit excited but I will continue to let them try. As far as your guys maybe you need to do something different?
Pat

[Second Hand Pat]

Don't do it unless you feel that all hope is lost. Your pair are overflowing with hope.

Don't do what Liz
Pat

[Second Hand Pat]

That's too bad Pat.....Look at it this way. You're one step closer to success

Totally agree Joe, it's only a manner of time
Pat

[LizStreithorst]

Don't do what Liz
Pat

I thought I said not to give up on yours like I did on mine.

[Second Hand Pat]

I thought I said not to give up on yours like I did on mine.

I never give up unless all hope is lost
Pat

[Second Hand Pat]

The pair laid last night and it is a huge spawn and I think their largest. I am leaving Tuesday on a photography workshop so I will be removing the eggs as I will not feel hubby is comfortable with messing with this. I hate to removing this spawn but think it is for the best for now.
Pat

[LizStreithorst]

I'd have done the same.

[Second Hand Pat]

Since I have returned from my trip the pair have spawned twice with no forward progress in fry care. I am returned them to the 50 gallon with the rest of the rams. They have been breeding for quite a while and think it is time for a rest. I decided to do what Liz did get a pair from Tom. They come next week
Pat

[LizStreithorst]

Good idea, Pat. Tom's Rams have a brain in their heads as well as being extremely high quality.

[Second Hand Pat]

Good idea, Pat. Tom's Rams have a brain in their heads as well as being extremely high quality.

Agreed Liz and most excited to get them plus they will make a wonderful photo challenge
Pat

[LizStreithorst]

Good luck on that. The blacks are not easy to photograph, but you have great choices of lenses to use.