Finally starting to learn to watch Rams

[LizStreithorst]

I was a total ignorant newbie to Rams when I bought my two pairs. I didn't know their little fishy ways like I do with Discus. This last time when my dominant pair spawned I thought they were acting frisky before they spawned. Just last night and this morning I saw the other pair acting the same way so I poured some fluvic acid (or is it humic acid?) in their tank. Sure enough I went down to do WC and boom, I caught them in the act!

Let's hope I keep doing better with these little guys. They are such beautiful and interesting little fish.

[Mugwump]

Are using the fluvic acid to get a more 'natural' water in the tank?....what's your dosage?..please

[LizStreithorst]

If it does the same as Roobios tea does in my water it will allow the egg shells to be soft enough to hatch. Since both Discus and Rams (and Angels for that matter) come from the same water parameters it sould work. I don't want to mess with RO anymore.

[danotaylor]

Good one Liz!!

[coralbandit]

I have used humic acid before but never really came up with a standard dose .
The stuff I got from a hydroponics shop is pretty strong .
It will work out for you ..They're learning too.

[LizStreithorst]

I pour it in until I feel it's at the right color. I'm ashamed to admit that I dose PP that way.

[LizStreithorst]

They were done spawning by the time I went back down after telling everyone about it. The female was flat bellied and away from the eggs. Dad was hovering over the eggs, fanning away. I figured they needed a break after so much excitement so I didn't do a water change on their tank today.

[coralbandit]

I pour it in until I feel it's at the right color. I'm ashamed to admit that I dose PP that way.

We all play DR. eventually ! Few want to admit it ..
I do know how to dose my PP but a light violet is the target so ?
They don't need the water change unless you think the tank could foul.
I tend to feed heavy so sometimes I am changing water when I shouldn't ..

[LizStreithorst]

I'd say dark pink to light violet. I use the pinky dose when I'm cleaning up fish for breeding even though I don't see an signs of a problem.

[LizStreithorst]

I had a good feeling about this spawn. The eggs were still there this morning and I liked the way they looked. This afternoon it looked like they were close to hatching. But the parents always see the first wiggles before I do. By WC time the evening the eggs were gone. Judging by the demeanor or the parents I believe they have moved the kids to the other side of the tank. Stay tuned for an up-date in the morning.

[coralbandit]

Sooo, do we think the eggs are still in the tank ?
They would be wigglers now I would think ..

[Second Hand Pat]

I had a good feeling about this spawn. The eggs were still there this morning and I liked the way they looked. This afternoon it looked like they were close to hatching. But the parents always see the first wiggles before I do. By WC time the evening the eggs were gone. Judging by the demeanor or the parents I believe they have moved the kids to the other side of the tank. Stay tuned for an up-date in the morning.

Very cool Liz, I hope you are right
Pat

[LizStreithorst]

No, "we" think that they were eaten. But I know...I'll keep watching.

[Discluv]

Liz, what brand of Roobios tea do you use?-- I am overwhelmed with the variety on Amazon.
Do you use an organic variety?

[LizStreithorst]

No guarantees that it will do for you in your water what it does for me with mine, but I use this. https://www.amazon.com/Davidsons-Tea...9038669&sr=8-8