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    Default Re: Finally starting to learn to watch Rams

    Liz, I have a small advantage on the ram watching. There are still 10 rams in the 50 gallon which started all this. There is constant flirting among the four pairs plus territorial skirmishes. The tank is simply a beehive of activity but such a fun tank.
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    That's true. You also bought rams that were raised by their parents from a guy whose every post shows his passion. Yours come from parent raised stock. That might be the other difference between our closeness to success. (Of course DiscusLuv has made it farther than either of us!) Mine came from a guy who has excellent taste in fish, but doesn't radiate the same passion as Tom. He's a good breeder,I think that my guy depends on fish to make part of his living. Besides, Tom is here and loves helping us succeed.

    I know that this is not in anyway a competition. Who ever succeeds in raising these little guys first will be ready rooting for the others, and all of the ones still trying will be happy for the one who succeeds first. I still think that it's fun that there are 4 enough trying for the same thing and that thing is not even Discus. How weird is that?
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    Default Re: Finally starting to learn to watch Rams

    Tom, My LFS is getting a 5 gallon and a 2 1/2 gallon in. They need them for stock any way. I'm interested in both but may just get one of them. I probably will. I forgot to tell them to order a couple of dip and pours for me. That is not something that they would keep in stock. If I am going to try artificially raising is their anything else I should get while I'm there next week?
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    I use the disposable airstones and MB and that is it ..
    Terracotta trays ..3 inches .I like mopani wood at fish stores and java wood at bird places ..The java wood is a South American coffee tree.

    Funny on it is not a competition and everyone helps ..That is the fun..I want to see others have fry .One buddy of mine said he would just like to see fry one more time like years ago ..That was two years ago and he gets fry regularly raises some and struggles some and we laugh ..I feel like I brought him pleasure and that does make me happy ..Its the real share that cost nothing ..
    On another forum [I tell Liz it is the kids forum] we have the 'discus gang' 4 ,5,6 people who all got like 3 inch disc in the beginning of the summer .
    We all said it was not a competition.. I have no control ! I want to breed first ,faster ,more or better ...Usually in that order even ...
    Crushing the competition can be fun too? Maybe that is the craftsman or passion just out of control but fun none the less..
    I think parent raised fry may breed and raise better but that would be a real hard experiment to have any finding beyond anecdotal ..Just to many variables in the fish alone ?Over all I would say they should be better fry .
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    As I get more knowledgeable through experience ill try the parent raised method again. I am sure it results in much stronger, healthier fry. But, the darks are too expensive for me to take a chance of "maybe he will kill her, maybe he wont".
    I actually took the male out of the tank on the second day (morning) went into the 10 gallon.
    Who knows-- the real test it seems is getting the fry past the first 2 weeks.

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    Default Re: Finally starting to learn to watch Rams

    With Discus it's the first 3 weeks after attachment.
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    Default Re: Finally starting to learn to watch Rams

    It looks like my pair ate this batch, too. Next time around, I'll be a bandit. Once I succeed at that the pair can go back into their 10 gallon and try for as long as it takes.
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    Default Re: Finally starting to learn to watch Rams

    Quote Originally Posted by LizStreithorst View Post
    That's true. You also bought rams that were raised by their parents from a guy whose every post shows his passion. Yours come from parent raised stock. That might be the other difference between our closeness to success. (Of course DiscusLuv has made it farther than either of us!) Mine came from a guy who has excellent taste in fish, but doesn't radiate the same passion as Tom. He's a good breeder,I think that my guy depends on fish to make part of his living. Besides, Tom is here and loves helping us succeed.

    I know that this is not in anyway a competition. Who ever succeeds in raising these little guys first will be ready rooting for the others, and all of the ones still trying will be happy for the one who succeeds first. I still think that it's fun that there are 4 enough trying for the same thing and that thing is not even Discus. How weird is that?
    Liz, I am not sure in my rams were parent raised or not. I will need to ask Mike T.
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    Default Re: Finally starting to learn to watch Rams

    Oh, I thought you got yours from Tom.
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    Default Re: Finally starting to learn to watch Rams

    And I don't think Tom parent raises?

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    Default Re: Finally starting to learn to watch Rams

    I guess I'm mistaken about a lot of things.
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    Default Re: Finally starting to learn to watch Rams

    If I recall correctly Tom pulls the first spawn of a new pair and lets them try on the second spawn.
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    Default Re: Finally starting to learn to watch Rams

    That's what I thought, too. That's why he's the bandit.
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    Default Re: Finally starting to learn to watch Rams

    Sorry I stand corrected.

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