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    Quote Originally Posted by LizStreithorst View Post
    She's wanting to breed and there isn't a male interested in her. Don't be surprised if she lays eggs with no male helping her. When a female gets full of eggs they need to lay them.
    I agree.
    Likely a male is excreting hormones that the female recognizes and is doing her part to win a mate.
    Hey Peewee ,I too have been told ,and seen so far with all my discus that they do recognize their own.
    Somewhere ,maybe in a comic book for what it is worth I read ' Given a choice a pair will choose a mate of their own color if possible.' I haven't read a comic book in a very long time but have lots of fish /discus/cichlid books ....I got 5 sets of 2 each color discus from Hans and out of my first 10 discus two pairs formed and they matched up.One died .and 2 jumped out due to the pair forming .. What was left [3 fish] were all male and different color . I am sitting on 3 new sets of 2 and hoping for pairs ?
    The move to new tank offers the cleanest water for the fish in some time so you may some breeding activity [ maybe only eggs] soon .
    You'll know when a pair has formed .The are not as sneaky as people ~! What you will see is team work once they form at least until the eggs arrive ..
    Glad to have been reading how you have overcome adversity that would have stalled many ,many others ..
    I have found persistence and patience pay off ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LizStreithorst View Post
    She's wanting to breed and there isn't a male interested in her. Don't be surprised if she lays eggs with no male helping her. When a female gets full of eggs they need to lay them.
    That makes good sense.
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by coralbandit View Post
    I agree.
    Likely a male is excreting hormones that the female recognizes and is doing her part to win a mate.
    Hey Peewee ,I too have been told ,and seen so far with all my discus that they do recognize their own.
    Somewhere ,maybe in a comic book for what it is worth I read ' Given a choice a pair will choose a mate of their own color if possible.' I haven't read a comic book in a very long time but have lots of fish /discus/cichlid books ....I got 5 sets of 2 each color discus from Hans and out of my first 10 discus two pairs formed and they matched up.One died .and 2 jumped out due to the pair forming .. What was left [3 fish] were all male and different color . I am sitting on 3 new sets of 2 and hoping for pairs ?
    The move to new tank offers the cleanest water for the fish in some time so you may some breeding activity [ maybe only eggs] soon .
    You'll know when a pair has formed .The are not as sneaky as people ~! What you will see is team work once they form at least until the eggs arrive ..
    Glad to have been reading how you have overcome adversity that would have stalled many ,many others ..
    I have found persistence and patience pay off ...
    I am testing the recognition thought. I had a pair spawn, then fighting occurred when the male became protective of the eggs. I move the female away. How I have them back together in the breeding tank but so far no fighting but no mating signals either except they nudge each other and spend most time side by side. Last I saw there was on fry swimming around in that tank but somehow it has not found mom or pop so maybe it is blind or no sense of smell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinni Smith View Post
    I moved the yellow filter hugger into the big tank with the rest.
    Now he/she is guarding the top of the driftwood.
    I wonder if it was part of a pair and when the fish were shipped to me, the pair was split apart???
    Any thoughts?
    You get yourself on down to Victoria Secrets and get her some girly wear. That will get the boy's notice right quick.

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    Observation.

    When I set the first acrylic tank up, I put the tank directly on the stand with no pad between. This later became a problem because the tank and stand soon became one. We had a hard time getting it off that stand.

    During the 3 weeks it was up and running before the cracks the fish were ok in it but never seemed to be at ease. They stayed uptight and outta site. When the front door would shut, they would all run for cover. As I told you all, they HATED it when I would siphon out the poop. They were just never comfortable.

    Now, this time around, I put a camping sleep mat between the tank and the stand. Totally different attitude of the fish! They were all very happy in their new digs only 1 hour after the move. They no longer jump anytime there is a bump or squeak in the house. It is like it is a different batch of fish!

    I am 100% convinced that they were feeling and hearing way too much stuff going on in our house before. This was being transferred from the floor, thru the stand into the water. Now, all they really hear and feel is the HOB filter, the air bubbles and what ever sound waves hit the outside of the aquarium.

    What a difference!!!
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    Maybe vibrations were transferring into the water via the stand to the glass. The pad softened the vibrations somewhat?

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    Yep. I think that is exactly what happens.
    I will always use pads from now on.

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    I use 1/2 styrofoam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinni Smith View Post
    Yep. I think that is exactly what happens.
    I will always use pads from now on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinni Smith View Post
    Yep. I think that is exactly what happens.
    I will always use pads from now on.
    Discus like good vibrations, Vinni.

    We're pickin' up good vibrations (good vibrations, oom bop bop)

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanyuki View Post
    I use 1/2 styrofoam

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    Great idea and it looks good too.
    I had read about styrofoam also

    Do you see a difference in your fish as well?

    For what reason did you decide to pad it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peewee1 View Post
    Discus like good vibrations, Vinni.

    We're pickin' up good vibrations (good vibrations, oom bop bop)

    I am really believing they do bro.

    I think they like the Beach Boys too!

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    The cabinets that I was using were for four 75 gallons tanks layout and switched to two 120 gallons and needed a styrofoam to distribute the weight of the tank in case of uneven floor.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinni Smith View Post
    Great idea and it looks good too.
    I had read about styrofoam also

    Do you see a difference in your fish as well?

    For what reason did you decide to pad it?
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    I’m surprised the styrofoam doesn’t crack. And does it compress? My tanks are in the basement on concrete and tile. So I’ve never noticed a problem

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    I am using this kind of Dow styrofoam in pink........The weight of your tank will be focused on any high points on the surface, placing the bottom panel of glass under focused stress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iminit View Post
    I’m surprised the styrofoam doesn’t crack. And does it compress? My tanks are in the basement on concrete and tile. So I’ve never noticed a problem
    Last edited by seanyuki; 07-12-2020 at 10:52 PM.
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    This is my remaining Red Turq from my first batch of discus purchased about 6 months ago.
    I call him my $250 Turq.

    I purchased 5 from a dealer that I did not check on first.
    Fish all arrived alive but one would not eat.
    It was all downhill from there.
    I just put the 4th down today.
    Just did not see how he could go on.



    This one is magnificent!
    4 1/4" approx.
    I love this fish.
    Fastest growing discus I have so far.

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