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    Quote Originally Posted by pablos View Post
    Hopefully you're right. Is there anything more which I should think about / take an attention to be closer to success.
    I was reading people are adding medicines to avoid eggs fungus, lower KH to help with hatching, etc. Or better to leave it to Mother nature
    The single thing that you might pay attention to is the water hardness. If too hard the eggs will have not much chance of hatching. Test for hardness and lower it if necessary. Otherwise it is up to the works of mother nature. Somehow these fish living for centuries in the wilds of the great Amazon River managed on their own without the help of man.

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    out of my tap:

    TDS 65 ppm
    Total hardness 7 dH
    Carbonate hardness 13dH
    pH 7.2

    I have Indian almond tree in the garden, so can add a leaf or two, so KH and PH would go down easily.

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    A week later I have new eggs in the breading tank

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    IMG_1925.jpg
    they decided to go with a filter not a corn

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    Third approach. Hopefully eggs won't be eaten this time WhatsApp Image 2020-08-31 at 18.53.23.jpg

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    Everyting would be fine apart of the fact that I’m moving out in 2 days. Luckily new place is as close as 5 minutes drive.
    What would be the best approach to move eggs ?

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    I’m not sure how, but male either swim above fence, use a straw or found any different technique and manage to eat all eggs again. It’s third time already.

    Should I separate him next time (after he fertilise eggs)?

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    Pull out the eggs next times after spawning.

    Cliff

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    Thanks Cliff. Isn’t it challenging to feed freeswimmers without parent? I thought keeping female with fry would be fine, so they could suck her mucus, than switch to normal feeding schedule.

    I mean there is a lot of information posted how to feed fry, but less about artificial growing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pablos View Post
    Thanks Cliff. Isn’t it challenging to feed freeswimmers without parent? I thought keeping female with fry would be fine, so they could suck her mucus, than switch to normal feeding schedule.

    I mean there is a lot of information posted how to feed fry, but less about artificial growing.
    I usually pull the eggs and place them in a clear one gallon pitcher. The pitcher can be place inside the tank, when the fry are free swimming just pour them back in with the parents.

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    I see. Do you add some airstone, or it’s not needed

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    Quote Originally Posted by pablos View Post
    I see. Do you add some airstone, or it’s not needed
    I sometimes add an airline and place it on the backside of the spawning substrate and other times there are no air only if there is an high water current in the aquarium. The high water current will move the pitcher mimicking the parents fanning. I hope this is not too much confusing.

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    I think I get it. Won't parent eat free swimmers if you let them out of a pitcher?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pablos View Post
    I think I get it. Won't parent eat free swimmers if you let them out of a pitcher?
    Yes, same as using the wire screen, there is no fool proof unless you artificially raise these Discus. You can also pour the fry in with another pair but
    there is still no guarantees.


    Cliff
    Last edited by CliffsDiscus; 09-02-2020 at 04:54 PM.

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    Short update about my pairs. Right now regularly every 11 days both red melon and red pigeon, than blue diamond and blue turquoise are spawning.

    Red pair tried 7 times at least, but each time male eat eggs of if I protect cone eggs go with fungus. One time I took some eggs out before male eat it and saw wrigglers next day.

    Same story with blue once: eating or fungus, but just less number of cases.

    I haven’t tried Cliff’s method with pulling out eggs yet.

    Should I try to find a problem in water, or those pairs are not mature yet?
    Last edited by pablos; 10-15-2020 at 03:56 PM.

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