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    whenever I've used Bio Spira I put fish in on the same day. The bacteria will die if they have no food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danotaylor View Post
    You need to supply the beneficial bacteria with a food source of you hope to cycle your filter. Putting the bio spiral in and leaving it for a few weeks will not achieve anything but the bacteria dying, and then probably your fish as well. You can add ammonia or even some fish food to provide an ammonia food source for the BB colony to feed on and multiply.
    Buy a master test kit and when your ammonia reaches 0 and you have nitrates present you have the beginnings of an established bacteria colony to support your fishes bioload.
    I have a master test kit.

    I dropped a pinchful or two of hikari gold discus pellets...probably should've done this a day or two in advance to begin the decomposition...hopefully all my bacteria I just paid for don't all die

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    Quote Originally Posted by kev1310 View Post
    Oh, I've just noticed the positioning of your heater. If you're doing large water changes you could easily drop the water level lower than the heater which unless you remember to turn it off beforehand every time will lead to catastrophic heater failure, plus, sooner or later you will forget to turn it back on again (been there, done both lol). Much better to have it horizontal or diagonal nearer the bottom of the tank so you can't expose it to air.
    Thank you for this advice. ive been trying to see how far to drop the heater in I honestly haven't known how low it should go.

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    Try horizontal.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLankster View Post
    Thank you for this advice. ive been trying to see how far to drop the heater in I honestly haven't known how low it should go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peewee1 View Post
    A point, Tom. That is the side view. Why else would a Chargers logo be located anywhere than it is? Window placement and Charger logo location all suggest a side shot. It's a nice set up all the way. Except for that Charger logo. I'm suggesting a change in order to make the fish happier. Seahawks (huge fish eater), Rams (is a fish too) and Dolphins (also a fish).
    Chargers 4 life brother need the sign up for when we win the super bowl this year

    Quote Originally Posted by Iminit View Post
    It does look small. It is 50gal and not 50liter? Or that could just be the side. What are the dimensions.
    Will get dimensions later but smallest it is is 45. largest is 55. bought the tank off crags list... I know its oddly shaped

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    Quote Originally Posted by fljones3 View Post
    Try horizontal.
    I lack common sense I figured it would short out if it went too deep in.. didn't realize the entire thing can be submersed lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluelagoon View Post
    I agree that the foot print of the tank is too small for discus that size.
    Quote Originally Posted by Iminit View Post
    Tank looks good and cycle won’t matter. Test kit a must for the first 2 months. Your going to be changing water daily about 50% or more. So that will keep your ammonia down. Being the tank is on the smaller size I would start with smaller fish. I just bought Hans discus at 2 1/2”. They see to be growing fine in my 45. I bought 8. Water changes are the most effective mportant thing.
    Peewee come on! How are Rams and Seahawks aqua related???
    Quote Originally Posted by BrendanJ23 View Post
    Agree with what is said above, but also that tank is far too small and a I believe you will be setting yourself up for some problems.

    I am getting some different opinions on the sizing of fish. When it was recommended to me 4 inch + it was because I had a smaller tank and they can handle water quality things better. However seems here some of you think I should go smaller. Problem with going smaller is I do NOT want to get another tank eventually *until I move out my damn parents house*. So I don't want to be stuck with 2-4 that I don't know what to do with. Lol.

    Please lmk what you guys think when it comes to discus sizing for the new fish.. Also I will look into if I can get a sponge from the dealer.

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    Also any more input on the setup? DO I need more filters etc etc? bubbler etc etc..

    Tank will be barebottom

    WC probably every other day (if I can keep up)

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    The tank is fine as it is mate. Many a bare bottom here, lol!
    If you're not sure you can keep up every other day changes it's almost certain you won't. That's not a negative, but it's good to be honest and realistic with yourself right off the bat. With that in mind, the bigger discus you can buy the better. 5 @ 4.5"+ would be best in your tank : thumbsup:

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    Yes you should have an air stone or something to keep the surface water moving. With that foot print you'll need one most likely because most of the oxygen comes from atmospheric pressure from the surface and that foot print hinders it a bit being tall instead of wider. The more surface area the more fish you can put in a tank. We say gallons per fish but that isn't always the case.

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    Ok what type of hob? How many gph is it moving? Something I use for $20 delivered off eBay is the odyssea 250 powerhead (pic below). This is a power head with 2 sponges that moves 250gph. Your hob should give you plenty off air and water movement.
    How many discus are you planning on? My reason for smaller is them will grow in and easily adjust to your water routine. Though for best results you will need to do 50% daily water changes till at least 4” than you can slow it down. Watch your fish and see how they do with your time span of water changes. Bigger fish are coming from a dealer that is doing 75-90% daily wc. These fish may stress when not getting that clean water anymore. Just for me seems like a higher risk for a much more expensive fish. Next and this is just what happened to me. When I bought bigger fish 5.5” they took awhile to adjust ever after a month in qt. And they only grew about an inch more since I got them (a year ago). While my 2” fish have continued to grow. 8ACDC93B-43F9-49A6-969D-EADB38C7CC11.jpg

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    Oh and peewee you may need new glasses because that’s not the ram on the helmet as to the dolphins I beleive the phrase is squish the fish .

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLankster View Post
    Chargers 4 life brother need the sign up for when we win the super bowl this year



    Will get dimensions later but smallest it is is 45. largest is 55. bought the tank off crags list... I know its oddly shaped
    http://reef.diesyst.com/volcalc/volcalc.html

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    Go Chargers!

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