Egg status... lots of spawns, not wrigglers

[damian_ireland]

I have posted about my "pair" of wilds in the wilds section. This "pair" have spawned about 10 times but I have not had wrigglers yet. I am wondering if they are 2 females. I have taken pictures of the eggs tonight, they are about 30 hours old(and yes, this time they spawned on a mag cleaner). I have searched for good high res day 1, day 2, day 3 spawn pictures but havent managed to find any but I believe from reading some other threads that i should be seeing a black dot at this stage ?
discus spawn 8th november 2.jpg
discus spawn 8th november 1.jpg

[CliffsDiscus]

Wait another 30 hrs if fertile there should be a black dot in the center of each egg.

Cliff

[Second Hand Pat]

Hi damian, I have some experience breeding wild greens. Can you post pics of the pair?
Pat

[fljones3]

Damian,

Pat helped to confirm my pair prior to wrigglers. This is what she wrote (although still post the pics, for sure).

"My observations from breeding wilds is the female is generally smaller with a larger halo then the male. The striations are thinner on the female and the male generally has more striations then the female. Also if you look at the fish head on note the width between the eyes across the nose, the male will be thicker then the female."

[Second Hand Pat]

Damian,

Pat helped to confirm my pair prior to wrigglers. This is what she wrote (although still post the pics, for sure).

"My observations from breeding wilds is the female is generally smaller with a larger halo then the male. The striations are thinner on the female and the male generally has more striations then the female. Also if you look at the fish head on note the width between the eyes across the nose, the male will be thicker then the female."

Thanks Frank, one thing that applies to wild green males is their halos are pretty impressive. Look at the two fish in my signature, both are wild green males.
Pat

[fljones3]

Pat, don't you have a link to your wild greens that you can refer here? I cannot remember as I read so many of your threads (did read many others, especially the growout challenges) when mine bred that I thought the forum was simplypat. LOL!

Thanks Frank, one thing that applies to wild green males is their halos are pretty impressive. Look at the two fish in my signature, both are wild green males.
Pat

[damian_ireland]

Pat, Frank, this is the "pair" i have posted in the wilds section.
the eggs tonight. A lot of the eggs have turned i would have said "yellow" as opposed to white, or am I just being naive ? some have also gone clear.
discus eggs1 9thNov.jpg

[CliffsDiscus]

You should know today if any of the eggs are fertile.

Cliff

[damian_ireland]

not good eggs.
here are some pics of them if someone wants see if they can be sexed
Female
female discus.jpg

Possible Male
possible male.jpg

Possible Pair
possible pair.jpg

[LizStreithorst]

Oh God, they are gorgeous. Some of those eggs looked fertile. If you ever get fry and want to sell some please let me know.

[danotaylor]

You'd have to ship them from Ireland Liz

[LizStreithorst]

Oops!

[fljones3]

Gorgeous!!!

[Second Hand Pat]

not good eggs.
here are some pics of them if someone wants see if they can be sexed
Female
female discus.jpg

Possible Male
possible male.jpg

Possible Pair
possible pair.jpg

These guys are gorgeous and not as easy to sex as my greens. So best guess is the one on the right is male and left is female. She has a little more delicate look to her.

Damian, have you ruled out water has a cause for the white eggs?
Pat

[damian_ireland]

These guys are gorgeous and not as easy to sex as my greens. So best guess is the one on the right is male and left is female. She has a little more delicate look to her.

Damian, have you ruled out water has a cause for the white eggs?
Pat

Is there something specific in the water i should be checking Pat ?
pH = 6.8
tds = 85
temp = 82

I do roughly 40% water changes every 4 days. I have a HMA filter on my tap.