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    Default Re: Egg status... lots of spawns, not wrigglers

    Hi Damian, that is a long time to go between water changes. What are your nitrates?
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    Default Re: Egg status... lots of spawns, not wrigglers

    Quote Originally Posted by Second Hand Pat View Post
    Hi Damian, that is a long time to go between water changes. What are your nitrates?
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    Sorry Pat, that was a typo.... Every 4 days....

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    Default Re: Egg status... lots of spawns, not wrigglers

    Hi Damian, you might try doing a WC every two days. How big is the tank?
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    Damian,

    You might have already said this. In your observations, is it the same fish laying the eggs each time (I guess that it is)? Have you examined their tubes? Any observed differences? They look the same to my untrained eye (go with what Pat says).

    Beautiful fish. I would be like you, hunger for fry from these two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Second Hand Pat View Post
    Hi Damian, you might try doing a WC every two days. How big is the tank?
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    I could try that, tank is 350L and only have 8 tetras and 4 baby geophagus in it with them

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    Quote Originally Posted by fljones3 View Post
    Damian,

    You might have already said this. In your observations, is it the same fish laying the eggs each time (I guess that it is)? Have you examined their tubes? Any observed differences? They look the same to my untrained eye (go with what Pat says).

    Beautiful fish. I would be like you, hunger for fry from these two.
    Not close enough. I plan on watching like a hawk next time. Have the kids all on alert as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by damian_ireland View Post
    I could try that, tank is 350L and only have 8 tetras and 4 baby geophagus in it with them
    Have you observed the discus eating the eggs? If it were my situation, I would remove all fish other than the discus to another tank or put in a divider.

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    Default Re: Egg status... lots of spawns, not wrigglers

    Hi Damian, the tubes do look quite different. The females tube is larger, squarest with a flatten end. The males is smaller with a pointy end.
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    Default Re: Egg status... lots of spawns, not wrigglers

    Quote Originally Posted by fljones3 View Post
    Have you observed the discus eating the eggs? If it were my situation, I would remove all fish other than the discus to another tank or put in a divider.
    I have seen the female eat the eggs almost every time, always on day 3. The other fish get nowhere near the eggs

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    I'd also remove the other fish. It wouldn't hurt and might help if you lowered your TDS even more.
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    Default Re: Egg status... lots of spawns, not wrigglers

    You could put a cage over the eggs so that they cannot be eaten. Then you would be able to know if they are fertilized.

    Quote Originally Posted by damian_ireland View Post
    I have seen the female eat the eggs almost every time, always on day 3. The other fish get nowhere near the eggs

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    You know Frank, I thought about that too. But mom might be eating the eggs because the little embriose inside the eggs may not be able to hatch out because the TDS is too high. The fish cam tell before we do. Sometimes wilds like very soft water. I don't want to tell Damian what to do but if the fish were mine I'd lower the TDS to 20 first. If the female still eats the eggs then it's time to cage them.

    I love Damian's fish. Good wild RSG's are terribly hard to find for sale.
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    Default Re: Egg status... lots of spawns, not wrigglers

    Agreed, they are beautiful. I think at the end you get an answer.
    Of course, you could do both. I think his TDS is 80.

    Quote Originally Posted by LizStreithorst View Post
    You know Frank, I thought about that too. But mom might be eating the eggs because the little embriose inside the eggs may not be able to hatch out because the TDS is too high. The fish cam tell before we do. Sometimes wilds like very soft water. I don't want to tell Damian what to do but if the fish were mine I'd lower the TDS to 20 first. If the female still eats the eggs then it's time to cage them.

    I love Damian's fish. Good wild RSG's are terribly hard to find for sale.

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    Default Re: Egg status... lots of spawns, not wrigglers

    @Pat - what were your water params for your spawns ?

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    Default Re: Egg status... lots of spawns, not wrigglers

    Quote Originally Posted by damian_ireland View Post
    @Pat - what were your water params for your spawns ?
    Hi Damian, take a read thru this http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...ters-for-Wilds.
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