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    Default White stuff on the head

    One of my discus has these white stuff coming out if its head. I do regular water changes and medicate with Melafix, aquarium salt and occasionally with Seachem Paraguard,
    I also add Seachem equilibrium after each water change since I use RO water. The water is crystal clear.
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    Default Re: White stuff on the head

    How much water do you change and how often. Crystal clear water can have a lot of nasties in it. Not sure if it's an injury or the beginning of head in the head, Try to fill out the questionnaire. http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...lease-complete

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    I'm afraid it is hole in the head. They say the treatment is metro but IME this never heals.
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    It usually leaves a scar. There are two species of Hex. One is able to live outside the gut, hence HITH or lateral line disease. But both look almost alike under the microscope.

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    Default Re: White stuff on the head

    Quote Originally Posted by LizStreithorst View Post
    I'm afraid it is hole in the head. They say the treatment is metro but IME this never heals.
    I agree with Liz, the way is to control the outbreak by way of more waterchanges and oxygen.

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    DISEASE QUESTIONNAIRE


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    1. Please explain the problems with your fish. When did you notice the problems and did anything unusual happen that you think started them?

    5.5 inch discus, started having white potruding out from its head. I recently added 4 baby (2.5 - 3 inch) Stendker discus fish from Discus hans, about 2 weeks ago. Also about 3/4 months ago one of my fish had died after I quarentined him, no symptoms, just wont eat. Before that when I first got the discus in March of this year, this affected fish and another little one were sick. I quarentined both of them and both survived. The little one had visible symptom of HINH. It went away after aggresive treatment.


    2. Symptoms (i.e. turning dark, excess slime, not eating, clamped fins, flashing, darting, clamped gills, white/yellow/green poop, hiding, headstanding or tailstanding, white on tips of fins, rotting or fungus, blisters/white zits on fish, bloated, cloudy eyes, wounds).

    Turning a little dark, peppering and stripes visible. Wont eat but participated in feeding gathering. Hides in the corner other times. It seems her head is a bit swallowen right now. But no holes in the head.

    3. What medications/ treatments have you already tried and what were the results. Include dosage and duration of treatment.

    6 capful of paraguard the first day, salt (not teh full dose), Melafix (two capful). Adding a one capful everyday after that. Also added 5 capful of API super ick cure at the beginning of symptom (since I didnt have another anti fungal med at the moment), and two table spoons of aquarium salt.

    Tank/Water

    4. Tank size and ages, numbers and sizes of fish.
    supposed to be 90 gallon but when I measured the volume it came to be about 78 gallon total including sump. three 5.5 inch, two 4-inch, one 3.5 inch, four 2.5 inch


    5. Water change regime (What percentage and how often).
    Usually twice a week

    6. How long has tank been running? Is it bare bottom? If you have substrate, what type and how deep is it?
    7 months. No I have some sand only in the back where plants roots are forming, front section bare. About 1/4 to 1/2 inch deep.

    7. Do you age your water? If you do for how long and what is the ph swing.
    No, straight from Ro filter. pH is usually 7.

    8. What type/brand water conditioner do you use? Do you add it to the tank or aging barrel? How much do you use?
    None

    9. Parameters and water source;

    Unfortunately I dont have an API masterkit (other than NPH, Nitrite) at the moment, just test strips. I just measured, pH is about 6.4, everything else is normal (Nh3 0, Nitrite 0, No2 0, Gh, kH seems low - cant figure out the exact measure from test strips)

    Note: Water Parameters are important in diagnosing problems within a tank. If you don't own test kits for the following information, you can purchase them, test your parameters and post this info as soon as possible.


    - temp _____84-86

    - ph _____6.4

    - ammonia reading ____0

    - nitrite reading ____0

    - nitrate reading ____too low

    What type of water or combinations of water sources do you use? If it is an RO/tap/well water mix, please list percentages in the mix.

    - well water ____none

    - municipal water ____none

    - RO water ____all


    10. Any new fish, plants or inverts added recently.

    yes two weeks ago, didnt quarentine

    11. Please tell us what you feed your fish and how often. This can be critical information for solving the problem so be as specific as you can.

    Red blood worm in the morning, , Mysis shrimp with spiriluna in the evening. One cube each time. With a very small amount Omega one Discus pallet and Ocean neutrition flakes filled with neutients

    12. Include any pictures or videos you have which shows the symptoms. If you can't add them to this post, please provide a link to them.
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    Default Re: White stuff on the head

    The big question is what percentage of water do you change twice a week. As far as I'm concerned the fish with hole in the head is a gonner. Like Cliff said, the goal now is to keep the others from getting it. It doesn't sound like a cross contamination problem to me, but I suppose I could be wrong. Please test your water for a pH swing. You do it this way: fill a cup with fresh water and test the pH. Then put tap water in a bucket, add a bubbler and test the pH after the water has bubbled for at least 12 hrs then test it's pH. A pH swing of more than .4 can be stressful to fish over time and lead to disease and parasites.
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    Default Re: White stuff on the head

    Today I did a 30 % water change and dosed a full dose of Metro, and two table spoon of salt, and nothing else.

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