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    Hello! So I ended up buying a discus breeding pair from hans. It was my favorite strain and I have extra space, so I just went for it. Thing is, I'm needing some help with my water.

    It's hard which I know means the eggs can't hatch. 7.8 PH, 10 dGH, 15 dKH, 450 TDS.

    My question is, what level should I try and get it down to? Or do I go for the pitcher method? Not sure what is best for a beginner breeder.

    Not expecting much success, but it's something I've always wanted to try.

    Thanks.

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    Take it down to under 90. That works for almost everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LizStreithorst View Post
    Take it down to under 90. That works for almost everyone.
    Me too. I don't complicate it, I just use RO water to bring mine to 80.

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    Perfect! Easy enough. As far as tank size goes, will a 40 breeder suffice? I can go a bit larger to 55 or 75. Would remove the parents once it's time and grow out fry in there. Thinking I would have to section off part of the tank to help the fry find the parents.

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    A 40 breeder is a little shallow for a breeding pair. A 29 is what you need.
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    Thanks Liz and Brian. I went to my fish store and found a used 44 gallon. Odd gallonage, but same height as a 29 with extra length and width. So that will be my plan. The pair is a F2 Batata Red. Can't wait to show them to you guys, they are gorgeous.

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    That tank size sounds great. Please post a pic of the pair!
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    Here are my new fish! I am so pleased with them. Hans really gave me some beautiful fish. The first two photos are them in natural light 5 minutes out of the bag. For some reason, my camera makes the photos look blue . It washes them out in the photos, but wow are they pretty. I will have to get some more photos tomorrow in the sunlight. TDS is around 95
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    Here is a little video I took. Still need to get them with some natural light! https://streamable.com/0aqlia
    Last edited by solasis; 02-07-2023 at 10:03 PM.

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    They look wonderful! Hans is great as well!
    Best of luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwcarlson View Post
    They look wonderful! Hans is great as well!
    Best of luck!
    Thanks Jacob. Hans really is a great guy to work with. Here is a picture of the pair this morning.

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    Well that was fast... sorry for the flipped pictures. 20230209_153510.jpg20230209_153507.jpg

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    I seem to be loosing wrigglers every day. I can watch some fly off the cone, parents reattach, and then they fly off again and never come back. Is this just something new pairs will struggle with for awhile? I don't have the tank painted white either, so I'm not sure if that would help. I'm down to probably around 15 wrigglers, so not sure if this batch will make it.

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    If you have not tried it, lower (or turn off the aquarium lights) for a few weeks until the fry permanently attach. I had the same problem, turned off the lights and only used room lights. A possible solution.

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    Patience. It takes 10 - 15 tries before parents get the knack of spawning.
    At my age, everything is irritating.

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