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    Al, Where did you get this information?

    The following Nutritional analysis was generously provided by Piscine Energetics (Mysis.com)

    Frozen Mysis (% concentration)
    ·***Protein 10.46
    ·***Crude Fat 3.29
    ·***Moisture 82.27
    ·***Ash 1.65
    ·***Carbohydrates (by subtraction) 2.3

    the facts information i got a package of frozen from Mysis shrimps by Piscine.

    It says Guranateed Analysis ( from dry weight)

    Min Crude Protein 69.5%
    Min Crude Fat 8.35%
    Max Crude Fiber 2.75%
    Max Ash 5.5%


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    Hello Duncan,
    Thank you for the response!
    Only some of my Discus will take it- I have been just dropping it in frozen.
    Great idea with the vitamins and garlic added!
    I'll have to try one of these or both.
    Have a great day!
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    hi Karen,

    The mysis shrimps are good for fish, because it high Protein help them to grow out and great actives. I use the mysis shrimps to feed my fish african cichlids, discus, angels, rams, others, they love to eat.

    I suggest you can feed mysis shrimps small amount they will eat and getting use it. every 2 days when they love to eat , you can feed them everyday it would be no problems!

    what i think the mysis shrimps more meat than bloodworms.

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    Thanks Duncan!
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    You are very welcome Karen!

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    Perhaps I'm missing something, but frozen PE Mysis appears to have very little protein or lipids, yet weighs in with a whopping 82% water content.

    That water must be costing you a lot of $$$?

    Frozen Mysis (% concentration)

    · Protein 10.46

    · Crude Fat 3.29

    · Moisture 82.27

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    HI Neil,
    All Live/frozen foods weigh alot. and It not the Protein content that I like to feed it for. Protein is protein in most cases with very little difference and is easily obtained in any commercial Feeds. I have even fed my discus a commercial diet 100% vegetable based protein to no ill effect.

    What I like about Mysis is the Fatty acid Profile...
    Fatty Acid % Profile of Freeze Dried Mysis

    ·***C14:0…………Myristate…...……..8.47mg/g
    ·***C16:0…………Palmitate…..……...24.73mg/g
    ·***C16:1…………Palmitoleate……….11.59mg/g
    ·***C18:0…………Stearate……..……..0.89mg/g
    ·***C18:1…………Oleate……………..17.07mg/g
    ·***C18:2(n-6)……Linoleate…………..7.39 mg/g
    ·***C20.0…………Arachidate………....0.00mg/g
    ·***C18:3(n-3)……Linolenate…………..7.14 mg/g
    ·***C20:1…………Eicosaenoate………. 0.00mg/g
    ·***C20:3(n-3)……Eicosatrienoate….….9.87 mg/g
    ·***C20:4(n-6)……Eicosatetraenoate…...0.00mg/g
    ·***C20:5(n-3)……Eicosapentaenoic…...17.85mg/g
    ·***C24:0…………Nervonate…………...0.00mg/g
    ·***C22:5(n-6)……Docosapentaenoic..…0.00mg/g
    ·***C22:5(n-3)……Docosapentaenoic… 0.00mg/g
    ·***C22:6(n-3)……Docosahexaenoic….12.53mg/g


    This makes Mysis a nice suppliment to any Diet for discus.

    Additionally arthropods do play a role in a discus native diet and as such Mysis helps as a substitute..

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    Hi Al,

    Don't get me wrong, I too have suggested to fellow fish keepers that if they feel the need for a supplement, to use PE Mysis (which I believe is the best brand on the market), but I simply wanted to point out that when feeding the 'frozen' product, it's something that should be used as just that, a supplement.

    Protein is protein in most cases with very little difference and is easily obtained in any commercial Feeds.
    Not exactly, but we can cross swords on that subject another time.

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    Not exactly, but we can cross swords on that subject another time.
    sent you an IM

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    Yes, Al. It is the highly unsaturated fatty acids that are of the most importance. It has been found to be good for the eggs of brightly coloured marine fish too.
    Al, could you expand on this a little? Many brands that have highly touted ingredients name the source proudly. PE does so, as well as the defunct Murex, one of the best shrimp and mysis sellers, and also Brine Shrimp Direct does sell relicta. But why do Hikari and others not spell it out? Mysis can be mysids, not Mysis relicta. Wouldn't it be a little "off" if they were not relicta ? The seahorse people should know the difference, but I don't see mention of it here. Still, this is interesting, that the Hikari is different in size than PE. Note the post by "SimplySmitten" ( hey, that should make it not off topic) on how the horsies by-pass the Hikari for PE. Just because of size? Don't know.
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    great article on mysis shrimp!
    thanks for sharing!

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    I have always wondered about Mysis Shrimp! Great Sticky, Al!




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    All frozen foods are primarily water. That's why a pound of frozen is so much cheaper then a pound of freeze-dried in a comparable food. But compare frozen mysis to frozen bloodworms and you'll see the value. From Hikari's website here's the details on bloodworms...

    Guaranteed Analysis:
    Crude Protein 6.0% Min.
    Crude Fat 0.5% Min.
    Crude Fiber 0.9% Max.
    Moisture 89.0% Max.

    And if you did a comparison of beefheart or live foods you'd find that they are mostly water too. I don't think of frozen foods as a supplement at all.

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