Food Recipes...

[phatdave]

I just improved . Getting ready for Saturdays babies..

1 Handful Wardleys Cichlid Floating Pellets free
3 egg yolks .20
1 gob of Topfin Goldfish flakes free
about a dozen debreaded butterflied shrimp .75
1 slug of peas .15
3 decapsuled multi vitamins .35
several cubes of Dried Tubifex worms free
...magic bullet and into my Goodwill mini cube ice trays...?

watching my Discus grow.....PRICELESS


Dave

[Eddie]

I just improved . Getting ready for Saturdays babies..

1 Handful Wardleys Cichlid Floating Pellets free
3 egg yolks .20
1 gob of Topfin Goldfish flakes free
about a dozen debreaded butterflied shrimp .75
1 slug of peas .15
3 decapsuled multi vitamins .35
several cubes of Dried Tubifex worms free
...magic bullet and into my Goodwill mini cube ice trays...?

watching my Discus grow.....PRICELESS


Dave

Dave, you may as well just feed them flakes or pellets with the majority of you ingredients already being processed. Also, DEBREADED shrimp? You are gonna use shrimp that is breaded for frying? Uh........

[yim11]

x2 on the debreaded shrimp, not suggested, nor is the tubifex worms.

Primary nutrition is really the last place you want to try and cut costs for discus IMO.

[phatdave]

Dave, you may as well just feed them flakes or pellets with the majority of you ingredients already being processed. Also, DEBREADED shrimp? You are gonna use shrimp that is breaded for frying? Uh........

It was a joke guys, sorry it failed.

[Discus-Hans]

It was a joke guys, sorry it failed.

Even I got that, from the commercial, lol

Hans

[acroken]

Here is mine for you article

24 oz of deveined fat removed raw fresh beefheart
4 oz of fresh fish never frozen presentley using Atlantic Salmon
6 egg hard boiled egg yolks
1 banana aged
1 cup of shredded red lettuce
1 tbsp spirulina
7 mg of iodine I use the vegatable from health food store
1/2 vitamin powdered cap multivitamin

this will give aprox 2 lbs

I pregrind everything and then place in the food processor with No Water added.

I have used Agar Agar (available at health food stores) which has a higher melting point then Gelatin...but I find the banana binds the food and as long as I don't add water it seems to hold together ok.

It should also be noted that extended freezing of anything will diminish the vitamin content so you should make enough for just a month or two.

Hey Vern, i was wondering what form of iodine you use? i can not find it in the health food store.
Kenny

[kmckim]

I made up my own batch Sunday (yes, to the sweet sounds of the Super Bowl) and I tried to copy a few of the recipes here, but at the same time, I am a young man, and therefore, couldn't follow directions!

I used:
1/4 lb shrimp (with shells)
1/2 lb fresh salmon
2 cups spinach (blanched, to make them a bit softer)
4 Fish Oil capsules
4 Multivitamins (I checked for calcium content, etc to make sure it was there)
1 container pureed carrots
1 container pureed mixed veggies (carrots, peas, etc)
Bit of Corn starch (scientific I know)
3 egg yolks
2.5 cups chicken hearts
8 or 9 garlic cloves

I chopped it all up into a mush in a food processor, such that nothing but the spinach was recognizable (and only then since it was green). I moved it all into a large sauce pan and added just a little bit of water to it, half a cup or so. I mixed in 12 packets of Knox Gelatin to bind it up a bit, split it into 6ths and poured it into ziplock bags, making sure it was nice and flat.

The fish have started eating it after some slight confusion as to what it was, and now they seem to genuinely enjoy it, as do their cory and cardinal cohabitators.

Any input? All input? Excoriate as needed!

[Vern Archer]

A word of caution with the 4 multi vitamins..Vitamin A should not excede 5,000 I.U. and vitamin D should not excede 400 I.U. per kilo mix 2.2 lbs. Overdosing can lead to serious illness and the blockage of the kidneys. Extra Calcium can be obtained from using red lettuce.
v

[kmckim]

Duly noted about the vitamins. I was aware that you can overdose your poor fish, but each pill contains about half of the max you mentioned Vern. Split into the six different quart size containers I ended up freezing down, and fed only in pieces of off a sheet, I should be in the clear, right? Being science minded I should have taken that into consideration before I made the mix...

Any other input?

Thanks again for being such an awesome resource everyone!

[Vern Archer]

Hi, since you asked, I have accumulated over the years information on fish Nutrition good bad and ugly and have placed this info under Food and Nutrition, on my site www.archersdiscus.com. Basically I use a spreadsheet to tabulate the vitamins, aminos and minerals and have another column that shows the general target I want for nutrition based on various literatures I have read. By googling the ingedients Nutritional value I load that into my spreadsheet and it tells me if I am over or under in a certain area. Its not perfect and I realize that some of the information is not based on Discus specifically but I use it as a guide. I think your formula has good variety although the fish may not like all the garlic you may have to back off a little if they don't eat it. I am constantly tweeking my formula as I gain more information or information becomes available but I have been basically using the same formula for many years. I also subscribe to feeding a good quality flake food and a live culture of white worm. I hope this helps, regards v

[kmckim]

It certainly has, and so far, so good with the garlic, apparently I got some very Italian discus.

[darkknight87]

Okay, maybe these two questions have already been asked ...
But first one is..Ive seen contrasting proposals about using Salmon..
Some people use it, and others say to avoid oily fish...so is it alright to use or no?

Second..
why use the gelatin? I dont understand its purpose..

[hedut]

my own recipes

1/2 pound beef heart
1/2 pound shrimp
1/4 pound salmon
1/4 pound scallop
3 glove garlic
1 table spoon multivitamin
1 table spoon naturose
1 table spoon spirulina
2 table spoon tetrabit or prime reef

that my recipes and I take most of them from Eddie recipe

[whitedevil]

I tend to go alittle crazy with my beefheart mixes. I can honestly say I have never made it the same way 2x but heres a basic...


3 cups ground beef heart/veal heart
1 cup ground raw shrimpw/ shell
2 cups HBH meat lovers flakes
1 cup HBH Discus and Angel flake
2 oz formula one marine
4 crushed womens one a day vitamens
6 calcium citrate +Vit D suppliments . crushed
4 tablespoons yellow cornmeal
3 egg yolk
2 tablespoons paprika
3 tablespoons ground garlic powder
1 /2 cup cooked spinach pureed

mix and heat til hot, not boiling and stir in 6-8 packets of Knox gelatin, pour and let cool. Cut it up and freeze.


Additional items I may add or substitute...
CooKed wheat germ for the cornmeal.
Baby food (hey I have one).... the pureed spinach, carrot,bananna, are all great additives.
Babay formula 2-3 tablespoons...laugh but check out the nutritional info in it
Brewer Yeast-1 tablespoon....of course I have a lot of this.
2-3 tablespoons spirulina powder or 1 /2 cup flakes
3 tablespoons plankton , or Krill fines (jehmco.com)
1/2 cup tetra color bits, or nutrafin max , complete marine morsels
Cod fish filet1/2 pound per pound beef
fish oil 1/2 tspoon
decapsulated Brine shrimp (brine shrimp direct)

oh yeah, I also throw in the kitchen sink to really balence things out...

Hth,
al


PS... I, Al Sabetta authorize Simply Discus and its owners to copy, edit, and publish my recipes ;D

I know this is an old thread or atleast old post, but exactly how much does this recipe yield when complete? also the consistency, I plan on using "ice cubette trays" to freeze and form the food for final use but I want to know if I need to go out and buy a new freezer or not.
Thanks

The recipe does sound kinda gourmet, I wonder if my guppies are good enough for this food.

Thanks.

[JaredP]

This is what I am trying for my guys (who are reluctant to try beef heart. But this is all they are getting until they do)

1 part Beef heart, deveined and fat removed
1 part shelled fresh shrimp
1 part fresh white fish (I used a fresh mullock)
1 part fresh or frozen spinach.
1 cup quality pellet food
2-4 small cloves of garlic cut in half with skin removed.
one teaspoon paprika


I then mix the beefheart and garlic to a small paste, then the white fish, then the pellet to a powder, once powdered add the spinach and mix.
Should look like this


Put into bowl and mix by hand to a smooth consistency. And add paprika.



Then put into bags and make thin. Freeze. Thaw before feeding.


I'm just starting to try this on my guys, but at this point they only touch freeze dried blackworms, so they are going to be very hungry and will have to enjoy it.