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Re:My experiences with crossing wilds
I have crossed a bunch of Wild Tefe Red Spotted Greens into everything you can imagine.
The most important part is choosing the wild Male. You need to use the best one that money can buy. Trust me when I say this. The more spots the better results. If your using inferior fish its a waste of time.
For example the fish pictured below that cost me $180.00 produced a few outstanding pieces but the numbers were limited at F1... I should have spent the cash and went for something that had 300+ spots per side and cut a few years off the back crossing.
I hear people sneer at Olivers prices... You get what you pay for. The extra money for a high quality dominate fish may shave a few years off your breeding program.
Also I see lots of people that are getting very excited about breeding wild to wild.... Don't hold your breath sometimes the number of desired F1's that look like parents are less then 10%
Mike
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Brew, those fish look great. Have you noticed less diseases or health-related issues w/these wild crosses?
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F1 Cross from Male above and Female Fine Line SS.
Note SS had a great pattern.
Mike
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Re:My experiences with crossing wilds
Thanks Chiro,
I don't know about being hardier, because I culled heavily from the beginning, I think I weeded out some of the weaklings.
It may be in my head but I have noticed a pronounced increase in growth rates. ...at least I think I have to the point of being very interested in researching it more.
Alls I can say is these spawns have grown like weeds, and I have had very few problems with them.
I have crossed the snakes to the wild greens a few times now. My most recent cross though is a wild green male X checker board pigeon blood female... I lost a few Months time here from some personal issues, but they spawned weekly and I now have about 100 at dime to quarter size, from one spawn, and week olds from another...Should be interesting...
-al
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Thanks Michael. Very sound advice. There is a way to pick a wild breeder that their offspring will resemble the parents. It's all depending on the parents. That also reflects on the price of the fish. A certain trait on the fish can predict the color of the F1. A few German Wild experts has also found out how to tell a fish from the same region by some markings on the facial area. Can't explain it in a few words or pages.
Jimmy.
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Runner: Live and learn. When will you ever learn. I rest my case. You are turly an expert. I envy you have already known what the expert has spent over 30 years on this topic. Good for you. Instead of having me further expand my nonsense of what I have found from the German Breeders. I'll let you tell the rest of the world what you have found about the wild and their prices. You people have to ask runner. He is an expert.
Jimmy.
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Re:My experiences with crossing wilds
Runner, A dominate wild fish that displays the traits that are desired by breeders fetch a big price. Plain and simple you get what you pay for...
Mike
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