Jalli Titanium Heaters

[Jeff]

In October of 2002 I purchased a 800w Jalli titanium heater and controller for my holding tank. I recieved it and it worked great. I liked it so much after 1 month I purchased another one in December for another holding tank. When this one arrived it was DOA. I called Pet Solutions explained and they sent me another one that I had to pay for until the one that was DOA was returned and they would credit my account. The next one I recieved was fine and still using it. On Thursday March 20 my customer recieved his from Pet Solutions DOA. So he returned his. I went to do water changes that afternoon and noticed the original one I bought was now dead. > Yes it is under warrenty and they have offered to replace it, but that is not the point. I need it to work right in the first place. This is now 3/5 that have to be returned.


I have called John at http://www.jehmco.com/ and he's hookin me up. I need something more reliable.

If you are thinking about the Jalli you might want to keep looking.

[Carol_Roberts]

Thanks for the warning, Jeff

[April]

ok....so....they can put a man on the moon..but their not able to make a simple heater that doesnt malfunction?
whats with that?
every time someone tries out another one..i hear more problems.

[daninthesand]

Yes it is a shame. And kinda frustrating. Simple, cheap technology. Bound to fail. Spend the money it costs to put a man on the moon and I bet the heater would be perfect!

[thebaglady]

Is this the heater with the all metal body (instead of glass)
that has a remote dial for + or - outside the tank?

[Jeff]

Yes, That is the heater. Maybe we should ask NASA to design a heater for us. Wait they probably would cost like $4500 each. Maybe not. ;D

[Jason]

Jeff,

if your just heating your holding tanks build yourself an emersion heater like the kind used in coffee makers, you probably could even use the controller from your bunk heater for it

[daninthesand]

Jason. funny you should mention that. I was talking to a biomedical engineer at work yesterday and he suggested I do just what you said. he gave me some ideas on how to do it. I am concerned about using just any heating coil though. I've heard nickel or copper can be hazardous to the fish. Any ideas? have you done this yourself?

Daniel

[brewmaster15]

HI Jeff,
I have heard alot of great comments on Those heavy duty heaters that John at jehmco sells. If I had a large enough tank, I'd give them a try myself.

Let us know how the heater works out.

Thanks,
al

[Jeff]

Hey Jason good idea. I'm going to look into that.

[Rod]

Jason has a great idea here, forget the expensive aquarium heaters. I use a heater from a hot water urn and control it with a thermostat that is normally used in the horticulture industry for heating flower beds. There thermostats have an adjustable range from 20c to 40 c and can handle a high electrical current so are perfect for aquarium use. These parts are available through specialist electrical supply houses and are inexpensive (heater and controller around $200 aus or about $110 us.)

HTH

Rod

[thebaglady]

I suppose that would be 1) very hot 2) very fast....correct?
But what about what Daninthesand asked, is it something made from copper?

Not good for fish water

I don't want to start up the Ebo Jager contraversy again. But if you recall when it was raging I had said that the other brands of heaters sound like better alternatives simply because there are so few of us using them. Therefore there are far fewer failures reported. Now that Ebo has been abandoned and many are trying different brands there seems to be a thread every few weeks about heaters cracking or dying etc. And while the service dept of these other companies will replace the broken heaters if you ship them back and pay the shipping, that's the same thing that Ebo would do. I have had problems with some Ebos not getting to the desired max temp so I'd like to have an alternative brand to try but so far the failure rate of the competition doesn't seem any better.

Dave

[Jason]

i've seen stainless steele imersion heating elements before in everything from mini hot water heating boilers to electric cookware.

I figure I could peice one together with a thermostat/controller for well under $80.00, and it be very quick and efficient 12oowatts plus

[Rod]

Those heaters are available in stainless steel and are safe to use.


1) very hot? They will only heat the water to the setting you adjust the thermostat to.


2) heat the water fast? well that depends on how much water needs to be heated and the wattage rating of the heater. Normally these heaters are used in a sump of a giant aquarium or for multiple tank installations. For smaller installations i would not consider this kind of heater, better of with the normal glass ones imo.

Hope that answers your q's baglady