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    Tran; I have tried to e-mail ya! however it would not go through.

    Would you post you address

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    Thank you for the kind words, Ron. It has been a pleasure to help you.

    To the create-atures of simplydiscus; THANK YOU !!!

    This is one of the most impressive sites. The most informative. The most createive. The most friendly.

    Smokey



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    Smokey,

    My email:

    hdtran@sgtx.com

    or

    hiltontran@yahoo.com

    I am looking forward to hear from you

    H Tran

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    You have some good ideas Tran! I'll have to try it sometime. It may work! However, I tried using the 1" overflow as a siphon and it did not work! It probably because of air in the 1" overflow. That will be a problem unless you somehow get the air out of the pipes.

    But, eliminating the second overflow? I actually wanted a backup overflow just in case the main overflow can not handle the water flow, gets plugged for whatever reason, etc, etc! I always like backups! ;D And, as Smokey mentioned, use the 1/2" as a siphon because I already have the valve on it.

    Next, solenoid valves, timers = automatic waterchanges! LOL!

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    Total automation, eh. Great !
    Then what artifical incemination ??? lol

    A cam corder so you can watch from the office ???

    lol

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    Unfortunately for us any sump system has to have airflow in the intake system. It's just like trying to pour something out of a gas can without the little airhole open in the back. It will eventually cavitate and gurgle like mad. I've tried just about everything to reduce air intake in my planted systems and came to the realization that it's not possible to totally eliminate it, only reduce it.

    A good way of reducing the suction sounds in a system like that is to drill a hole in the top of your outer elbow and silicone a piece of rigid tubing to allow the air to flow straight down the pipe rather than through the intake. Marineland has done something along these lines with their "Jetstream" system. It effectively allows the water to flow along the outside of the air.

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    H Tran; i sent you an e-mail; with a draft attached.
    hope this clears up a few of your questions.

    Smokey
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    mahojazz; Actually this methind can be used on a single tank. Not necessarrly for a connected system.
    I have 20gallon units set up this way. Stand alone tanks.

    What I like - is for example a 20 gallon tank can have a ''sump'' [ any container holding water]. equal to or even holding more water than the tank.


    Ther is still one more method; which does not require the tank to be drilled.

    Smokey

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    Biotypical,
    Im not following you! Can you explain it again perhaps particularly the 'intake system'!

    About the automation, coming closer and closer to actually doing something!

    Here's the start:
    http://oeiwcsnts1.omron.com/pdfcatal.nsf/PDFLookupByUniqueID/E1A37FDDD134E51D86256BA7006537F6/$File/D11DS05P20402.pdf?OpenElement

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    Replying to Ronca's post # 22.

    Ron is correct. AND - no water on the floor; no syphon break, no need to reprime a pump, tank REMAINS full fo water.

    Part 1 - Remember - Ron has incorberated my BIO-TOWER@ DESIGN INTO HIS NEW MINI SYSTEM.
    The BIO-TOWERS act as the MAIN bio-filteration stage.
    From the towers, ron is able to divert water to any tank at any flow rate necessary.

    Part 2 - actually , the water will FLOW- UP through the 1.5 inch clear rigid pipe , first. The secrete to this design. It literally vacums the debre from the bottom of the tank !!!

    Ron's use of a 5 gallon water jug -- a bit of over-kill. BUT - what the heck. WE ARE MEN !!! GIVE US TOOLS. LOL

    P.S. Ronca has used more valves than any ''normal plumber '' does in a life time. ;D ;D ;D

    Great thinking and planning. this gives him ''TOTAL'' control ove any and all water flow and volume.

    One single pump does all this, and more.

    In Rons latest e-mail; he mentions that only one [1] 250 watt heater is sufficient to heat all the water, and maintain a constant temperature.

    He also mentioned something ''ELSE''

    RON, TELL US ABOUT THE SOMETHIING ELSE ! EH!!!

    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

    Smokey

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    The link did not work for me , ron !!!
    Smokey

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    Actually, its 2 heater! ;D 2 250W heaters heat 3 20G tanks and 1 40G sump!

    I dont know why the link doesnt work! If you copy/paste it will work though! You also need acrobat reader!

    Something else?????? :-[ smokey, what?

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    OOOPs, sorry ron. misunderstood .

    something else - Hmmmmm - some thing about a phone call from you wife. Hehehehehe.

    FRom the famous poem -

    WATER WATER EVERY WHERE
    BUT NAR A DROP TO DRINK

    The Ancient mariner.

    Smokey

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    :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :P

    Well, I guess the jug filter overflowed and water everywhere. I had not shown my wife where the plug for the pump was so she unplugged everything and I mean everything, heaters in my storage barrel, lighting, filters/heat/lights on my 30G with discus in it, etc! I guess I should of trained her. I had a good laugh though. The discus survived 72F. Whew!

    I will be installing a couple of switches to make it easier to kill the system if needed.

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    Hi Smokey,

    Can you please resend it to both of my email? For some reason I did not receive it :'(

    Thanks,

    H Tran

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