Fluoride ? is it in your water?

[April]

hmmmmmm......ok thats it.im moving to an island with a well. just for the fish.......it would be excruciatingingly painful for me to live there........ : :P ;D
interesting. no idea if vancouver has flouride added. now i will have to find out. wheres glenn...our water man?

[Ardan]

We have flouride added.

We still have dental bills ;D

[DISCUSDADDYSLC]

I went and bought a filter from Al at rocky mountain that filters all the bad stuff out of tap water. The by product of aluminium they can not seem to get rid of and are stuck with. And then some guy taste it and says lets find a way to make Humans eat it and tell them they benefit from it????? What next Pepsi with all the benefit of oil sludge

[Mr. Limpet]

Ok, I'll take the other view. Flouride has been in our water for as long as I have been around. It is added to help prevent dental decay, and it has made a difference, although I will have to do some research to back that up. That is why almost all toothpastes have it in it.
I have also bred Discus that have had 200+ fry as the norm with that same water and very few defects.
I just took a quick lookfor our last water bill, because it has the water quality info in it. I will have to look it up later. i do know that too much is bad, that's why the tell you not to swallow your toothpaste. More later, i need to go change some water. Paul.

[Mr. Limpet]

Ok, after a little web work,

http://www.ada.org/public/topics/flu...tml#scientific

"Thanks in large part to community water fluoridation, half of all children ages 5 to 17 have never had a cavity in their permanent teeth. According to the April 2000 Journal of Dental Research, the use of fluoride in the past
40 years has been the primary factor in saving some $40 billion in oral
health care costs in the United States."

Hard to argue this. The site has a lot of other info. The research is there. even if it was not so good for the fish, your kids teeth or your fish? I'm looking at $100 a cavity when my son gets them. My daughter takes after mom and has only gotten1. As Randall stated if you are that concerned, Ro/DI takes caaare of most of it. I'll still worry about driving to work. paul.

[brewmaster15]

"Thanks in large part to community water fluoridation, half of all children ages 5 to 17 have never had a cavity in their permanent teeth. According to the April 2000 Journal of Dental Research, the use of fluoride in the past
40 years has been the primary factor in saving some $40 billion in oral
health care costs in the United States."

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It is hard to argue that , but what are the hidden costs?

I remember the old screen ads for DDT.... saved tons of money in insect damage to crops.. Showed how safe it was by spraying on people.....talk about hidden costs there.


Now am not saying fluoride is an evil,,, like DDT. Just that chemically it has some very disturbing properties.

-al

[RandalB]

I'm not particularly concerned about it as the whole family gets RO water for drinking/cooking (including the dogs). The topical application of flouride to the enamel of the teeth is ensured by Flouride toothpaste and flouride treatments at the dentist. That should be enough to keep the "Sugar Bugs" (as my daughter calls them) away...

There is a ton of research being done on the effects of flouride in the water, as I said in an earlier post, it will be interesting to see what the results are. The link Al posted does raise some interesting points on the topic.


RandalB

[Mr. Limpet]

Al, don't start on DDT. Clearly a very controversial subject, But even Dr. Dean Adell(sp?) is convinced on the risk/benefit of DDT in the control of malaria, which is a huge problem in many parts of the world. The missuse of it is more likely the real problem. JMO, Paul.

[brewmaster15]

Paul,

DDT? controversial? Not too much so... It nearly made the bald eagle,peregrine falcon, and other top predators extinct.

Banning its use in this country was the best environmental decision that could have been. Sadly its still used elsewhere.

That pesticide bio-accumulated far too easily.

I recognize the need to control mosquitoes carrying malaria.. But DDT would not be the answer. Sadly no chemical is ... The answer lies in finding a way to vaccinate against this pathogen.. Insects will always become resistent to a chemical.

The probelm with malaria is not the mosquito carrier. Its that the pathogen hides so well in a persons cells.

I have to disagree with you on this Paul. DDT isn't an answer ...its another problem.

JMO,
al

[Mr. Limpet]

Al, after doing a little research, I will have to say that I agree with you. Although it is estimated that it has saved 25 million lives, what the long term cost is, is not acceptable. The WWF and WHO are looking for better answers. I stand corrected. Paul.

[brewmaster15]

Paul,

The WWF and WHO are looking for better answers. I pray they find one. The bug that causes this terrible illness is one of our most challenging to find a cure for.

I think the key will be a vaccine that somehow targets it before it enters the cells....No an easy task ., at least there is alot known about the organism that causes.... now if we could just use that info to prevent it enmass.

-al

ps.. Heres an allarming thought....west nile virus.. dengue...aka break bone fever
yellow fever
malaria
all vectored by tropical mosquitoes...

...They better find a cure before it gets mouch warmer around here.!