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    This was posted by Conrad and Winnie of Creativediscus

    Let's say if we take two types of discus and crossed, the percentage of either one that hits more than 50% is the dominant one.

    Dominant genes-( pigeon,white,ghost )
    Any cross with pigeon almost all the offspring will inherit the black pigments hence we term pigeon as very dominant in passing the black pigment. As for the white it's the reverse,if you cross it with other discus not much of anything from the other discus turns out. The white are dominant in not having any color and pattern incorparated in the F1 crossed

    Weak gene-Golden
    Golden are the weakest gene in the discus pool. If you cross it with any strains you would probably get 85% of the other strain's gene and only 15% from the golden's gene in the F1. If you want to create a goldensnake( gold base ) you have to cross the F1 back with the golden again(choose the 14bars)and repeat till F3 before you can get a good looking goldensnake.

    Unstable genes-any discus with snakeskin gene
    Snake skin are mutation from turquoise and this strain can never be fixed hence we term it unstable because if you cross snakeskin with snakeskin,spottedsnake with spottedsnake you will get two types of offsprings the 14bars(snake type) and 9bars(throw back)

    Recessive gene-Spotted
    Let's say you have a pair of define spotted discus(leopard,R.S.G.spotted snake) you crossed it and produced F1 with beautiful spots than you crossed the F1 with F1 the F2 will still attain beautiful spots,but as you go on about F4 you will notice that the red spots starts to merge and join into red lines, this is what we term as recessive the more you crossed(in breeding)you loss it's potency of spots.To remedy this you have to cross back with a prominent spotted one.

    Like to thank all those who have welcome us,we can feel the warm all the way here.
    Hope this can help answer some questions from rnorca and pete.

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    Thanks for a great subject Carol.

    Iam new to this forum and find it very informative.

    I live in Scotland and am interested in the methods of discus keeping around the world.

    Thanks again and I look forward to more of your posts.


    Mark

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    I have noticed with my little fry that some have light bodies and some are darker with sort of little bars.The female being a Blue Turq and the male a Gold Pigeon.

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    The light ones are pigeons and the dark ones with bars are turks. Your daddy pigeon must be a cross

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    Thanks again Carol for all the great information.So the dark ones should be Blue Turqs and the lighter ones Pigeon crosses.I have some more questions for you sorry The other pair I have which are in the community tank at present are a Blue Diamond and an Orange Pigeon now if I can get them in their own tank and they can get it right what colours would the fry be.Also is it better to breed two of the same kind.

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    If the pigeon is pure you will get 100% pigeon including blue panda pigeon (I think). If the pigeon is a cross you will get a mix of pigeon, blue turks and blue panda

    I think it is better to breed two of the same kind. You get less pepper if you breed pigeon to pigeon. You lose the solid color if you cross a Blue diamond.

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    Good stuff Carol, just what i was wanting to read.
    Very interesting.

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    may i ask u a question? is there any bad for throw backs?(9bars)

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    Snakeskins will produce 9 bars and 15 bars, etc. It isn't bad. It's just not a snakeskin

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    oh i got it. then it will turn out to be a turq?

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    yes ;D

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    lets say for a pure golden which has 14 bars. then the throwbacks of the offsprings will become what?

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    Goldens were derived from browns

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    so the throwbacks will become brown rite? thnx

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