Color Inheritance

[tpl*co]

OK, what about a cross with a Manderin Passion?

I was wanting a red fish x like a red white or a red melon, what would the babies look like?

(she on the other hand has been getting friendly with my RT, what would the babies look like if I can't change her mind with another male? )

[Carol_Roberts]

You would have to use a white based discus like a snowflake to try to develop a red/white. F1 pigeon crosses to barred discus like red turks may have lots of pepper

[simkey]

Hi everyohne!

Who know what will be the babys from Teffe & Red T. or Leopard RSS & Red T. or Teffe & Leopard RSS!Any idea?

Thank you all!

[Carol_Roberts]

I would guess something that looks more like a red turk

[simkey]

Well I dont know yet becouse my discus are yunior of 8-10 cm.I bought them in Duisburg 2004 and now I do WC and feed a lot.I'm interesting in strains that may future pairs could have.Anyway thanks!

[dtownkennel]

hey carol,


this is really interesting stuff to read...makes me want to ask too...heheh
what would you get if you cross a marlboro red with a red cover??? will there be peppering?

andrew

[NatakuTseng]

Been trying to figure this one out and from the sounds of it I'm gonna be ending up with mostly Blue Turqs. Would be a Male Blue SSX with a Female Blue Turq. From what I've gathered if my head isn't still spinning too much, since you get the throw back of 9 bars even with breeding two Snakes then by adding the Blue Turq blood into the mix the off spring should be almost all blue turqs. What do you guys think?

[Carol_Roberts]

Hi Andrew - sorry I didn't see your post earlier. You will get peppering with the pigeon cross.

Hi NatakuTseng:
Yes, you will get predominately turks with the SS x turk cross

[NatakuTseng]

Thanks for confirming that Carol.

[Jdawgg]

Very interesting read!!! I had totally wrong concept going. I thought if ya cross 2 differtent strains you would get 1/4 to look like dad, 1/4 to look like mom, and 1/2 to look like a combination of the two. I guess the dominant and recessive genes do change things quite a bit. So I would assume to keep a LSS strain strong, with good spotting, you should breedback to RSG..or to a good F2 LSS. Is this sounding correct?

[Carol_Roberts]

BD is recessive so none would look like bd. Mostly you would get a mix of cobalts, turks and SS.

[Kenny's Discus]

Carol - first of all thanks for your prompt reply. If u don't mind I need to ask for your expertise 1 more time :-)

I recently have fries resulting from a male Red_White and female BD,(mentioned to u in previous posts b4), now the fries are about 1 month old and they mainly consist of 2 types: one type with throwback (9 bars) and the other type with SS kind of gold bars (although there's no bar appearing across the eye). I guess my question is: why do I get babies with bars when both their parents are non-barred fish?

Also, do you think the "SS" type babies are truly SS? (then why no bar across the eye?) Thanks so much again.

[Carol_Roberts]

I'm guessing the red/white has SS in prior generation - The 15 bar babies should have fine lines and gillplate spotting like SS. The ones without eyebars maybe whites. Some of the whites may have 15 faint bars too

[Kenny's Discus]

Carol, its me again :-)

Today I saw some really nice Cloud Leopard (fine spots all over body) in a LFS of mine and was wondering if I should buy some and cross them with my Leopard/LSS at home. So here are my questions :-0

Cloud Leopard x LSS = ?

Cloud Leopard x Leopard = ?

Cloud Leopard x Cloud Leopard = ?

-also, is there a difference between a Cloud Leopard and a Cloud Leopard Snakeskin?

Thank you so much Carol.

[Carol_Roberts]

Anything with snake skin will have a finer (smaller) pattern and spots. All of those should make a good cross.