Altum Angels anyone....

[brewmaster15]

Hi all,
I have always admired this wild angel as much as discus for their beauty, gracefullness and finnage, and always wanted them. I now have them and they are even more stunning in person than in the books.

hope you enjoy them..

-al

[brewmaster15]

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[paletka]

Hi Al,
Can you let me know price? and can you save 12 for me?.
Do you have any red wild discus at the time?.

thank you
Chris

[Mike_T]

al,

they look great. altums are second only to discus in my book. and it's a close second.

-mike 8)

[Fishin dude]

Hey AL,
I have a couple Brazil Silvers..what is the main differences between the two strains?? Lee

[aloha_discus]

AL they are the most beautiful of the angels. I have a half dozen from 36 that I picked for their finnage,size and coloration after having them for 3 years now. You know that I am in for some of the smaller ones. It may take a while for me to raise enough money for them as I have had to sell nearly all my discus stock because of some problems but I still have 10 breeder size left that I will try to keep.

Let me know how much they are and I will work on getting the funds for them.

Mahalo, Ike

[yogi]

I'm not an angel fish person, but to answer Lee's question. The Altum is by far the tallest of all angels.

[tony1313]

Nice!!!!!!!!! I'm not a big angle fan but those are pretty sweet.

[brewmaster15]

Hi all, Thanks!

I'll be posting a sale in the commercial section as soon as They are ready to go. Right now I am just enjoying having them. They are a truely beautiful fish.

Lee, Jerry is right on the height. Brazil silvers (scalares) are a nice enough Angel.. I have a few too. But true Altums are much taller ... The finnage blows you away when you see them.

They are also only found in Columbia, to the best of my knowledge.


hth,
al

[wildthing]

My understanding is that they can be found in either Colombia or Venezuela or Brazil, but all from that region where those countries have mutual borders. They are more easily caught from the Colombian end of things...
They are very seasonal and not nearly as ubiquitous as Scalare or Dumerili
If you look on a map you can see that there are some rivers that they share. The country they come out of depends on the country the fisherman went in from .
Altums ( just like Discus) don't carry passports and have no preference between Portuguese or Spanish.

An adult altum in full color is a majestic fish.

[JeffreyRichard]

Altums are from the Orinoco River basin ... this runs through Venezuala and Columbia. The basis extends into the very Northern portions of Brazil.

There is a lot of information on Altums at the following sites ...
http://finarama.com/tba/
... Michelle Rickets has done a lot of work with wilds, and has good reference material

http://www.angelfish.net/yabbse/index.php ... The Angelfish Forum II has a good discussion of altums

[Mike_T]

has anyone found documented & varified proof of anyone witnessing them spawning in captivity?

http://www.finarama.com/tba/chronicles/fornback.htm

-miket 8)

[brewmaster15]

I have looked around for distributions cited in books and found little on specifics... but this From the Aqualog Book on South American Cichlids iv....pg 18

" Pterophyllum altum is only known from the central Rio Orinoco which is partly the border of columbia and Venezuela and whose drainages stretch over both countries.I collected the species in Rio Inirida which is probably the largest collecting site in Columbia. The fish are brought via aeroplane frpm Purto Inirida to Bogota and from there , they are exported into the world."-Hans J.Mayland

One thing I think should be noted though with any fish species. A fishes distribution in the wild and the length of a river system don't always overlap entirely ..actually quite the contrary is often true. A species may only be found in portions of a river depending on many factors. Additionally, fish have a way of turning up in areas they did not evolve..perhaps carried by the wayward Human.. or flood waters, JMO

-al

[brewmaster15]

Hi Mike,

Peter Thode of Gwynnbrook's is selling f4's from a breeder...Horst Linke

http://www.discushatchery.com/gallery/altumpage.html

-al