Questions about breeding wild discus

[wild_heckel]

I like to know if it is a lot more difiicult to breed wild discus (excluding heckel)than tank raised discus? The only wild discus I have ever kept is Heckel and I don't think I am going to keep them again. I think they are best left for people that are very experience and has a lot of time.
I like to try brown, blue or green.
Can anyone tell if brown discus is the easiest to breed? Follow by blue and green?
Where I live, wild discus is very expensive US$150-$200 and the availability is not good. So I will shop and wait around for good discus with reasonable price to become available. But in the a meantime I like to know how difficult they are to breed.
Many thanks.

[pcsb23]

In my limited experience, breeding wild to wild is not easy, wild male to domestic female relatively easy, don't know about domestic male to wild female.

[sleonard]

I'd like to know more about this as well. So, anybody here have direct experience or knowledge of breeding wilds? How much to wilds cost compared to domestics here in the US? I assume imported wilds will all be adults, yes/no?

Scott

[architect1]

Wild to dimestic wow thast a color code conflict I would think. a blue dimond with a heckle or blue or green. i wonder what they looked like. I'm sure there a beautiful fish ither way. just the discus word alone makes them beautiful.

[wild_heckel]

I actually like brown discus, I might try to get a couple of wild ones.
I didn't know that they are difficult to breed.

[fishfarm]

I don't think wilds are any harder to breed than domestics. I have wild pairs, Domestic males with wild females and wild males with domestic females. All work just fine together. Wilds tend to be very good parents, unlike some doemestic pairs.

[wild_heckel]

Fishfarm, thank you for the information.
My LFS has two nice wild greens but he wants US$200 each, I think I'll wait a bit longer.

[fishfarm]

Whoa, $200 each, I know the shipping cost to you are high,but I can bring in nice Asian fish and sell them for a lot less than that. I get $40-50 for a green. Ken

[Iggy]

I think it's just a matter of conditioning the pair...once the female is heavy with eggs she should be "in the mood" and the male should catch on to this and then it's "let nature take its course"...of the 6 wilds(3 blue manaus & 3 semi-royal alenquers) I got a few weeks ago, I think I have 2 pairs forming up right now- nothing serious yet, just defending "their" space and the females' bellies filling up slowly.

[Dark Lord]

Hi to eveybody,

I am new here and don reside at your part of the world.

I bred wild to wild before. They are better parent and the fertility rate is better. The difficult part is to convince and condition them into breeding condition. I believe it is a worthwhile effort.

I can get a good pair of wild heckel for USD 100 here...

[fishfarm]

Good deal Iggy, Several people have bred fish from that batch already. (Lee for one)

[tony1313]

I don't think I've ever seen an f2 heckel. Sure would like to see some pictures if anyone has any.

[fishfarm]

You'd need F1 heckels first! LOL I'm working on it, I have 3 pairs, I've had spawns and even wigglers, but haven't gotten beyond that yet. Ken

[tony1313]

I've had spawns and even wigglers, but haven't gotten beyond that yet. Ken

You've gotten further than most and I'm sure it hasn't been easy.

I've seen f1's about dime size posted here but no recent updates, I believe it was Alberto. I have to disagree with anybody that says that "breeding wilds is as easy as domestics". Especially when breeding heckels.


My bad, I missed the (excluding heckels) in the beginning post.

[AmberC]

What are f1 and f2 heckles?

Thanks!
Amber