Brew's Homegrown albino alenquers

[brewmaster15]

THanks Andrew,

we are doing better...I like the PP idea....but might aggrevate my ulcer..or make one.

On albinos..and why they lag.....best guess is theres more genes involved in albinism...and these are probably linked... I haven't noticed any eye issues so its not that they don't see their food....it could be because of the tank set ups...I have the albinos in a smaller group.. when I raised out the wild types...they are crammed in a 125...and feeding time was literally a frenzy... Cary Strong once told that if you want to grow em out big...pack them into a large tank...feed like crazy and do massive wc...I did that on wild types.....just not the albinos ..those I separated to a smaller tank...12 to 55 gal originally....and about 50 -70 in the 125's of the wild type..

One note......and this is why I think theres a good chance there genes for albinism linked with other genes.....I barely culled any wild type...I mean maybe 5%.....


....of the albinos...much more ...various defects and just poor shape.... I nit picked on the culling as I want to work with a strong group...but it was very pronounced in this cross.

If I didn't raise them and someone gave me the two groups of fry...I'd think they were unrelated.


Still, just theories on my part...I'm happy as I did get what I hoped for...some good albino stock...and even if they are growing a tad slow...they look proportionate and well shaped so I'm not too worried... I have a couple ARGDs I want to cross these to down the road.

thanks again for the comments!

-al

[Diskboy12]

I love the albinos Al, send some my way lol.

-Kevin

[forrest]

wow Al,
those albino alenquer look nice.
i sent off the intermediate n now im having problem finding the albino alenquer juv for resell,lol.

all the best.
forrest.

[phidelt85]

Those albinos and wild types look awesome!! Can't wait till mine get to looking like that.

[brewmaster15]

Kevin,
I would If I could!Maybe the f3's

Forrest,
You did an awesome job on the intermediates....Your loss here has definetly been my gain my friend!

Jose,
Your alenquers in the contest have the exact same parentage as these so yours should soon be looking very similar...keep up the great work and it'll pay off...I've been really impressed with how well all of you with the contest fish are doing! I see some of those fishes and I ask myself..."okay now why did I give those away again?"

take care,
al

[DarkDiscus]

Neat looking fish Al!

You definitely have the knack for growing them up as well as breeding them.

I was especially interested in your genetics lesson as I'm working with some new albino Lamprologus brichardi... Curious to see if they breed and what their fry look like.

Keep us updated!

John

[Elite Aquaria]

How did we not talk about these yesterday...

Looks like the food program is working nicely...I may need to try a few of your blends...

They look fantastic. I can't wait to see what crossing those Albino's will bring...

[Kenny's Discus]

Al, great looking homegrown albinos and alenquers no doubt about it.

When I was looking at your Albino photos something interesting came to mind...when you look at the iris color of most albinos they often seem like they have chipped eyes but they really aren't. I'm thinking since genetically the black pigment color is "taken away" from the albinos; the missing, or now white/chipped iris color(near the top and bottom of the iris) was once the black eye bar showing on some of the non-albinos' eyes. Just a thought of course.

Keep up the great work Al and I'm looking forward to seeing the future ARGD crosses into your albinos.

Kenny

[Condor]

Wow Al. Fantastic.

Adrian

[brewmaster15]

Hi all,
Its been a real long time since I updated this thread.. I didn't want to post until the Hobbyist Contest was over...and since it is now...I guess I should update things.

I've at this point got a group of 13 young adult wild type alenquers and 6 albino forms... I'm really impressed with the wild type ones...amazing behavior and looks... The albinos...could be better but still workable.. I'm glad I kept both groups to work with. Now I am just in holding pattern waiting to get some f3 fry from pairs yet to form... lots of sparring...no breeding yet.

hope you like the pics,
al

[brewmaster15]

more wild type

[brewmaster15]

albinos..... theres 3 that are albino pearl diamonds...not bred by me...these are the ones with little to no pattern and no forehead striations...I hope to cross them and start a new line ...somewhere in the future...

-al

[brewmaster15]

a few more...

[brewmaster15]

So there you have it .. a bit late on the updates but better than never

These fish are currently about 15 months old.

opinions welcome!

-al

[ashaysathe]

opinions welcome!

-al

Wow.. Amazing.. They look even gr8 in person. Even their parents must be saying we couldn't have done a better job than this.

Super Cool