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    Hi
    This are our heckels. We have them for 19 m-ths now. I don't have to tell you, those fish are our pride and joy. We brought 7 of them, but we lost 2 to speeding and 1 recently to different cause. Now we have 4 left, where there is definitely a pair.
    Water conditions;
    ph - 4-4,5
    kh - 0
    gh - 6
    NO2 -0
    NO3 -5-10
    NHO3 - 0
    temp 27-29 deg Celsius
    akqarium cap - 350 l

    I hope you will like the fish
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    Beautiful discus... I love the last picture
    nicole

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    Beautiful looking heckels,they look very healthy.all the best with them.


    cheers
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    Beutifull discus and superb setup!

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    too bad you lost three, but the rest are certainly great.
    great setup, good luck on sprawning.
    BTW, what the floating plants you are using, looks great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin22 View Post
    BTW, what the floating plants you are using, looks great
    That floating plant is ceratopteris pterioides.
    We have that in both tanks with wild discus. They like to nibble on that from time to time.
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    what s that floating plant you have in the tank?
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    thanks, that'd be water sprite, I guess.
    I'm using Pennywort. Thinking about use water sprite down the road

    Quote Originally Posted by Gajowa View Post
    That floating plant is ceratopteris pterioides.
    We have that in both tanks with wild discus. They like to nibble on that from time to time.

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    Hi there... beautiful fish and set up. Good luck with them. Keep us updated on the possible pair. Sue

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    Like always your Heckels are stunning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin22 View Post
    thanks, that'd be water sprite, I guess.
    I'm using Pennywort. Thinking about use water sprite down the road
    Water sprite do well in acid water.

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    Very nice barbra, as allways
    Hope you will get them to breed soon, wish you the best.
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    Your fish are really fantastic.I like your set up very much.Good luck in breeding

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    Hi Barbara,
    very beautiful tank and more beautiful heckels!!! Keep heckeling!!!

    I would like to ask you if you know how much phospates you have with such low ph, because I can't get down to 4,00-4,50 without them...
    Giorgos Roussalis

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    I have kept Heckels in RO water with a pH of >5 and my tap water with a pH of 7.4, KH 6, Gh 7 and TDS ~340.
    They don't breed in either conditions or look and act any differently so I just use the tap water.
    For maintenance, water freshness and cleanliness seems to matter most. My Heckels are old enough to have become very large specimens but despite all these years in captivity, they remain very wild. Gawaja reports losses to something called "speeding". I wonder in what way is this different from the normal panic attacks they are prone to? I designed my Heckel environment to avoid any sharp and hard object that they may crash into. They still get scratched up when they have panic attacks when dashing madly about but those minor injuries heal quickly. They actually became more likely to panic as they matured. They lost much of the curiosity they had as juveniles. I think the adults are far more cautious in their behaviors and much more likely to take flight when alarmed.
    I still have 10 I grew out from ~3 inch diameter juveniles and I only lost a couple during the first five days but they were particularly run down and sick specimens.

    I have pretty much given up on my hopes of ever breeding Heckels. I do have at least two large pairs that guard and clean a potential spawning spot and they even make false runs. I believe they use their sensitive ovipositors as a sensory organ to evaluate the quality, cleanliness and suitability as an egg laying location. I have always been able to get this far with Heckels but never to the point of an actual spawning.
    I'll continue to keep them as show fish but I am going to continue to work on breeding wild Blues again and I am setting up a new 125 for a group of wild Red Spotted greens. I will be able to keep my Heckels which are still my favorite wild discus and the new red spotted greens in the living room where I will be able to compare and contrast the their behaviors.
    Last edited by Apistomaster; 08-29-2008 at 03:48 PM.
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