Help..My discus are dying

[dkratzer1]

It's not easy medicating a tank this large, trust me, it's not cheap. I put the quick cure in as per directions. I put a drop per gallon like the directions said. The other meds are in tablets, you just dissolve them and put them in. I have to medicate the whole tank..all of the discus have whatever it is. I have angelfish and corys and a few gouramis in the same tank and they are fine.

[dkratzer1]

Just wanted to let you know that I appreciate everyones help!

[Eddie]

It's not easy medicating a tank this large, trust me, it's not cheap. I put the quick cure in as per directions. I put a drop per gallon like the directions said. The other meds are in tablets, you just dissolve them and put them in. I have to medicate the whole tank..all of the discus have whatever it is. I have angelfish and corys and a few gouramis in the same tank and they are fine.

When medicating a planted/substrate tank with an F&MG mixture, a lot of the effectiveness of the meds are diminished. Getting them in a QT tank will be alot more effective on the fish and it will be alot more cost effective for you.

Eddie

[texasdiscusman]

When was your last water change ?

[dkratzer1]

I did a 50% water change on Sunday. I just one about an hour ago.

[dkratzer1]

They are scratching alot. They have like a white film all over them, even over their eyes. It is not mucus though. Just a white film.

[poconogal]

Sounds like they might have this:

CHILODONELLA:

SYMPTOMS: Fish has a grey-white film of excess mucus covering its body. Gills may be swollen.

ORGANISM: Ciliated protozoan

How long did you treat with Quick Cure? The recommended medication for this is FMG which is in QC. You can also give each affed Discus a salt dip (aquarium salt, table salt or kosher salt is fine). Instructions should be posted here on SD on how to do this. After the salt dip, medicate with Quick Cure in a QT tank that is bare bottom would be best.

[Chad Hughes]

I agree with WW, it is surprising that the TDS would affect them now after 6 months of no issues.

Definitely get them into a smaller QT tank that is Barebottom.

Eddie

Eddie,

True. I didn't know that it had been that low. It's still too low though. I would think this would be stressful on the fish.

[Eddie]

Could be Chad and it very may have allowed the external organisms to take over the fish due to the stress. Alot of it can be a combination of things. Water is number one.

Eddie

[dkratzer1]

I checked on that too. The film is not mucusy and their gills are not swollen. I just remembered about 2 weeks ago I had a algae bloom. I put some algae control in made by tetra. I was wondering if these being wild caught discus that it may have affected them. It says on the bottle that it is safe for fish and plants. But the wild discus came down with it first. I know that they get some diseases first. The discus were fine until I put this in...I don't know just grasping at straws????????

[White Worm]

I know that my discus had a very bad reaction when I added some algae rid to the tank years back. I had one that swam right through it when I put it in and I swear he was retarded ever since. No longer have him and never again would I add any anti-algae chemical.

[MostlyDiscus]

If I can be of help I would just add that the temp seems kind of high at 90 degrees. If you used a combo drug like parisite guard and raised the temp that high that could be part of the problem. Quick cure seems to be the consensiss and I agree with that, lower temp though. I hope this helps my friend,,, hand in there.

Ed

[Eddie]

Definitely, just as Ed says. QC with a temp around 82 or less.

Eddie

[MostlyDiscus]

Bring down our tempeture down slowly. You can start the treament around 86 or so and continue to bring down your tempeture as you go. Going from 90 to 82 may be too big of a swing. Im thinking like 84 or so for the time being....

[Eddie]

Bring down our tempeture down slowly. You can start the treament around 86 or so and continue to bring down your tempeture as you go. Going from 90 to 82 may be too big of a swing. Im thinking like 84 or so for the time being....

For sure, in my case, the house temp is pretty warm. I can simply unplug my heaters and the temp will slowly decrease over the course of 24-48 hours.

Eddie