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    What is the difference between an Altum Flora and a Brilliant Blue or Blue Turquoise?

    Is an Altum Flora a high-body discus?
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    Yes, an Altum Flora is a type of high-bodied Discus. Usually a striated strain...Bill

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    Thanks Bill!

    That will simplify my discus selection since I don't like high body discus. I like discus with their normal shape: no high-body, no high-fins, etc.
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    Here is a picture of a Altum Flora. I never liked them until my spouse fell in love with them.. So I purchased a few to keep the peace and to buy what I wanted. After 2 months, I really like them now..

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    Super nice AF Jerry!

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    I like them classicly round too...but I do like these Altums as well. A slightly higher body to me is fine, but there is such a thing as too high. In the right proportions they are nice looking fish...Bill
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Palumbo View Post
    I like them classicly round too...but I do like these Altums as well. A slightly higher body to me is fine, but there is such a thing as too high. In the right proportions they are nice looking fish...Bill
    Yeah Bill, I am more into high body fish myself. Yours are unreal! Bet its something else to watch them in tank!

    Thanks for sharing the picture and take care,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorge View Post
    Thanks Bill!

    That will simplify my discus selection since I don't like high body discus. I like discus with their normal shape: no high-body, no high-fins, etc.
    I'll agree that some of the breeders' efforts are a little extreme. I'm no fan of "bulldog" discus, for example, or of extreme "standing egg" shaped fish, either.

    OTOH, I do like discus with a nice round shape, and it's something good breeders have used as a primary criteria in their breeding programs. Poorly bred domesticated discus can end up with a "football" body shape, something that's also not very attractive to me.

    There's a point of balance, a range of shape and fin length that maintains the natural beauty of the fish. I personally find the altum flora to be attractive, but really near the limit of what I'd consider to be desirable in terms of shape. They don't have exaggerated high fins, at all. Part of that is because they're also old-school in terms of color pattern, with the wavy turquoise markings.

    Wayne Ng fish also tend to be quite round while maintaining a balanced appearance.

    I recently obtained a group of altum flora crosses from Kenny. The other side of their ancestry is red snakeskin from Forrest's line of fish. In person, their body shape is really nice, not exaggerated, just nice and round, and their fins aren't strange at all. I really like 'em. I'm a fan of wild fish, of their "look", their color patterns, and if there were such a thing as wild red snakeskins, these would be it...

    If you're like me, or most of us, for that matter, the vast majority of discus we've ever seen have been in pictures. The appearance of live fish really is quite different. With that in mind, I try not to judge what others might find attractive too harshly, and to remember that a huge amount of work over several decades has created the domestic strains of today, whether they appeal to me personally or not...

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    It's funny how if we make the Discus a bit higher, it still looks good and is acceptable...lengthen it to any degree and it's not desirable anymore. This pic is of a Altum Flora taken to an extreme. WAY too high! Reminds me of a "batfish" Far past what I would call desirable, but you would be surprised at the number of people that see it and like it!...Bill
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    here's a shot of my youngster

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    I love high bodies, but again i agree with everyone it can be to much. I don't like the bulldogs.
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    Ricardo, that one looks like he's going to REALLY be high!...Bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Palumbo View Post
    Ricardo, that one looks like he's going to REALLY be high!...Bill
    i hope it's not too high. i really like that Altum but that is one of my concerns. i agree with the general consensus here about some being TOO high. regardless, so far it looks fine but i can tell he/she might be a tall one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Palumbo View Post
    It's funny how if we make the Discus a bit higher, it still looks good and is acceptable...lengthen it to any degree and it's not desirable anymore. This pic is of a Altum Flora taken to an extreme. WAY too high! Reminds me of a "batfish" Far past what I would call desirable, but you would be surprised at the number of people that see it and like it!...Bill
    That's a bulldog, not a "normal" discus with a high body shape. Nice pics here, from the originator of the altum flora line-

    http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?t=59599

    I don't think Ricardo's juvie is in any danger of becoming a bulldog- just a nice round fish...

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    My Altum Floras are from Jeffrey Y....thru Central Ohio Discus. Only that one grew in the wrong direction!...Bill

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