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    Default Re: Shipping Fish 101... A primer

    thx Al.....this is an excellent print-worthy thread
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    Default Re: Shipping Fish 101... A primer

    A question i've asked a bunch of people is do you label your boxes live fish? I've heard some shippers have problems with this. I know a bunch of the big farms, and shippers like hans have thier own boxes printed up, but what about the every day normal hobbyist, do you label your boxes fish?
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    I do Matt.

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    Should sticky this. Very good info

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    Quote Originally Posted by boonseong View Post
    Should sticky this. Very good info
    I agree. Very good and usefull info Al.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underwaterforest View Post
    Great Info. Sticky It!
    +1. No wait, I use to live in Chicagoland, make it +4. You know, vote early and vote often and all that.

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    Is all shipping overnight or can you do 2 day shipping?

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    Quote Originally Posted by puntific View Post
    Is all shipping overnight or can you do 2 day shipping?

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    I dont know about your question. Probably. I wouldnt recommend in the colder months. The heat packs may not hold temp up where it needs to be depending on its journey.
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    Can we expand this a litte more and get some information on shipping discus internationally? Any permits needed? Costs? Etc

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    Hey Al quick question...

    For oxygen could you just the end of an air stone to inflate the bag? Or is it the fact of using pressurized oxygen that makes it able to sustain in the bag better?

    Travis

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    Quote Originally Posted by manzpants92 View Post
    Hey Al quick question...

    For oxygen could you just the end of an air stone to inflate the bag? Or is it the fact of using pressurized oxygen that makes it able to sustain in the bag better?

    Travis
    Hi Travis, You really need the pressurized Oxygen. This isn't the same gas as that which runs thru your Airpump to airstone.. Your airpump is putting our normal air, which is composed of many gases.....

    "99.998% of air consists of only four compounds."

    99.998% of air consists of only four compounds.
    NASA/JPL
    Question: What Is the Chemical Composition of Air?
    Nearly all of the Earth's atmosphere is made up of only five gases: nitrogen, oxygen, water vapor, argon, and carbon dioxide. Several other compounds also are present. Although this CRC table does not list water vapor, air can contain as much as 5% water vapor, more commonly ranging from 1-3%. The 1-5% range places water vapor as the third most common gas (which alters the other percentages accordingly).
    Answer: This is composition of air in percent by volume, at sea level at 15°C and 101325 Pa.

    Nitrogen -- N2 -- 78.084%

    Oxygen -- O2 -- 20.9476%

    Argon -- Ar -- 0.934%

    Carbon Dioxide -- CO2 -- 0.0314%

    Neon -- Ne -- 0.001818%

    Methane -- CH4 -- 0.0002%

    Helium -- He -- 0.000524%

    Krypton -- Kr -- 0.000114%

    Hydrogen -- H2 -- 0.00005%

    Xenon -- Xe -- 0.0000087%

    Ozone -- O3 -- 0.000007%

    Nitrogen Dioxide -- NO2 -- 0.000002%

    Iodine -- I2 -- 0.000001%

    Carbon Monoxide -- CO -- trace

    Ammonia -- NH3 -- trace
    source...http://chemistry.about.com/od/chemis...omposition.htm

    The Compressed Oxygen gas contains Oxygen...so theres a much high percent of oxygen thats present. So you'll have much more oxygen in the bag with the pressurized tank...that translates to more time the fish has oxygen to breath. You can use that airline for short trips, afew hours in most cases... but not good for shipping.

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    Wow thanks for all the good information Al! That really cleared things up

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    Good info to have and review occasionally. Thanks.

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    What do you use to seal/close your bags? I've been using cable ties, but they've not seemed to seal well enough.
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