Red Turk has injured his eye

[Tito]

Well Tito, you're not a Discus! And most human eye drops/meds are saline based...Bill

HEHE

[Sea Hag]

He's in QT and it was alot easier netting him out of the display than I thought it would be. Eddie, you say with Furan-2 to keep the lights out (which I'm doing) but the instructions on the package make no note of this. Curious as to why??

[Jennie]

That was incogneto that suggested this which was not in relation to Furan 2:
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Don't see why not. I myself already do that as daily routine. Guess it depends on them upping theirs
Don't get me wrong I am not disagreeing with anybody just further clarifying

Terms like daily water change and "pristine" can be taken different ways by different people.

For instance a good daily 50% water change on a bare bottom tank leads to good water conditions.

A daily 10-20% water change on a tank with gravel etc......not so much. But both are examples of daily water changes.

And I would really dim the lights to cut back on the stress of the eye injury.

[Sea Hag]

Actually, what I was referring to was Eddie post (#22) where he said, "With Furan -2, you need to keep the lights out". I took it to mean that if you are using Furan-2 that the tank lights need to be turned off, not dimmed.

[Jennie]

ah, I am treating mine with a med that makes them light sensitive. This may be the case with furan 2 as well. dimmed would be ok just not full spectrum as Eddie told me

Actually, what I was referring to was Eddie post (#22) where he said, "With Furan -2, you need to keep the lights out". I took it to mean that if you are using Furan-2 that the tank lights need to be turned off, not dimmed.

[yourhero5002]

One of my turquiose discus is in the same situation. its in furan2 right now. should i be feeding it while its on meds?

[Sea Hag]

One of my turquiose discus is in the same situation. its in furan2 right now. should i be feeding it while its on meds?

I'm glad you asked this question as it's the same one I was getting ready to ask.

[Jennie]

YES if it's hungry, feed him!

One of my turquiose discus is in the same situation. its in furan2 right now. should i be feeding it while its on meds?

[yourhero5002]

YES if it's hungry, feed him!

haha. Will do

[Eddie]

Furans are made less effective with light. Even the reps at API will tell you that its not required. They are a bunch of goons just trying to make sale. You'll be lucky to get in touch with an actual specialist in aquatic medicine.

http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/fa084



The nitrofurans, including nitrofurantoin, nitrofurazone, furanace, and furazolidone, are commonly used in the ornamental fish trade, but the FDA strictly forbids their use by producers of food fish. Nitrofurazone is specifically categorized as 'of high regulatory concern' by the FDA and should not be present at any facility where food species are raised.
Although nitrofurans are commonly used in bath treatments, they are probably most effective against superficial infections and, in at least one study, nitrofurazone was not readily absorbed into the body of either gilthead sea bream (Sparus aurata) or tilapia (Oreochromis mossambicus) in experimental trials (Colorni and Paperna, 1983). Within the group, furanace appears to be the most effective for use in bath treatments.
To achieve the most effective result when using a nitrofuran in a bath treatment, either some sort of cover or a darkened treatment location should be considered, as the nitrofurans can be inactivated by light. Nitrofurans as oral treatments may not be as effective as previously believed, although the proper pharmacokinetic research needs to be performed to verify this conclusion.

[Jennie]

is this the same with LB? or are fish just light sensitive, not to hijack thread, but wondering

[Eddie]

is this the same with LB? or are fish just light sensitive, not to hijack thread, but wondering

Sort of, but its more of a change in the chemical.



http://books.google.com/books?id=SAd...0light&f=false

[Jennie]

Ok thanks. I don't know how I am going to do a WC without getting my hands in the water though. Might have to go get gloves or something. And not to mention I thought I'd be happy to have a few days off from WC's but not so. It's killing me to leave them in 3 day old water. Go figure

[Eddie]

Ok thanks. I don't know how I am going to do a WC without getting my hands in the water though. Might have to go get gloves or something. And not to mention I thought I'd be happy to have a few days off from WC's but not so. It's killing me to leave them in 3 day old water. Go figure

You are performing WC on the off days right? Also, I use reef gloves if there are chemicals in the water, very sturdy.

[Jennie]

first water change tomorrow night. last night was second treatment. today no treatment tomorrow water change

You are performing WC on the off days right? Also, I use reef gloves if there are chemicals in the water, very sturdy.