Albino RSG x Albino Leopard Snakeskin Fry

[Larry Bugg]

why the foster parents?

How do you get new parents to accept them... ?

i think i am missing something here..

When discus are hatched the parents turn dark with the production of the mucus that fry will feed off of. This darkening is intentional and this is what the fry look for in order to find the parents and attach. With albinos the parents do not turn dark and the fry have a difficult time locating them to attach. While it is possible to get fry to attach to albino parents it is not a given and can involve extra work and numerous attempts. I believe it is Chad's intent to eventually work on getting the fry to attach to the actual parents but he wanted to take the more sure method of using foster parents to make sure he got the first batch to grow out.

[Skip]

I see with the albinos..

however

do the foster parents produce mucus automatically with the presense of the fry? i jus don't get how a pair who did not produce the fry accept them.. is there a trick to this?

[Chad Adams]

why the foster parents?
How do you get new parents to accept them... ?
i think i am missing something here..

I see with the albinos..
however
do the foster parents produce mucus automatically with the presense of the fry? i jus don't get how a pair who did not produce the fry accept them.. is there a trick to this?

Hey Skip, Great questions & thank you for asking.
As many people have explained, typically Albino parents can have a little trouble raising their fry. Discus are very interesting, in that they don't care where the eggs came from, if they see a clutch of eggs they will immediately start caring for them. They will produce excessive slime coat and all! This is the best set of parents I currently have & that is why I am having them raise them. No tricks, just awesome, high quality fish!
Chad

[Skip]

really??! uh.. so they (proven pair) have some auto reaction to seeing eggs.. ..WOW>. thats VERY INTERESTIN>> ! and ubber cool! thanks

[jaykne]

I just wanted to add IME albino fry are very weak when they come off the cone and need good parents to get them attached, and even with that seems allot fail to attach. Albino's are a very hard strain to work with, Chad has done a great job!!!

[Second Hand Pat]

OK, I have a stupid question..actually two, are albinos capable of darkening allowing the fry to attach and when are foster parents introduced to the fry, prior to hatching? Thanks

[kaceyo]

OK, I have a stupid question..actually two, are albinos capable of darkening allowing the fry to attach and when are foster parents introduced to the fry, prior to hatching? Thanks

No, albino's can't turn dark, which is one of the reasons they often have trouble raising fry.
When to introduce them to foster parents can vary. Some foster parents will accept any eggs or fry given to them at any time and raise them. Others have to be activly spawning themselves before they will accept others spawns. And, as usual with discus, there are many possible variations on that theme among different foster parents.

[Problemman]

That is really cool! Discus are the ultimate parents imo now.

[Chad Adams]

I just wanted to add IME albino fry are very weak when they come off the cone and need good parents to get them attached, and even with that seems allot fail to attach. Albino's are a very hard strain to work with, Chad has done a great job!!!

I agree Larry, I believe that one of the biggest hurdles actually has to do with the physical attributes of the fry more than the parents

OK, I have a stupid question..actually two, are albinos capable of darkening allowing the fry to attach and when are foster parents introduced to the fry, prior to hatching? Thanks

I introduce the eggs to the foster parents usually within 4-5 hrs of being laid

No, albino's can't turn dark, which is one of the reasons they often have trouble raising fry.
When to introduce them to foster parents can vary. Some foster parents will accept any eggs or fry given to them at any time and raise them. Others have to be activly spawning themselves before they will accept others spawns. And, as usual with discus, there are many possible variations on that theme among different foster parents.

Well said Kacey-Thanks

That is really cool! Discus are the ultimate parents imo now.

Discus are some of the best parents in the cichlid family
Chad

[Chad Adams]

Update @ 29 days during feeding time!

[Tito]

Edited by then original posters request.

[Chad Adams]

Thanks Tito. I work very hard on these guys.
Chad

[Tito]

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[Skip]

as much food as fry need to be feed.. all day.. i don't think they can be spotless. BUT>. we clean them as much as possible and the fry look good.. so what ever you are doing.. your tank looked fine to me.. keep it up!

[Problemman]

I swear it must be everyones time if the month 2 of tge other forums um apart of have been dealing with people snapping in each other.hey fry tanks will not be spotless ecru time you set them...these atte looking do good I'm do jealous of them I so wan't to own them!