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    Quote Originally Posted by rickztahone View Post
    That's a mighty good memory you have there missy
    and pretty cool thread
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    Thanks Pat,

    I saw the tread. I was also surprise by the PH level...

    I've been experimenting with a new discus mix formula, with my current discus. This is a non beef heart mix, I based myself on Norbert Koch formula that he shared on facebook a while back.

    Proteins: 1kg of salmon, 1kg of shrimps and 750 gr of steamed mussels.
    I ran this mix 3 times in the meat grinder


    Fruits and vegetable. 1 pack of blanched bok choy. 2 large carrots. One can of unsalted peas and 4 bananas.
    I ran this mixture once in the meat grinder.


    I then mix everything and added the following supplements:
    4 cooked egg yolks, 1/2 gratted nutmeg, 5 vitamins capsules , 6 probiatic capsules, 4 cloves of garlic, 20gr of peat dust, 2 teaspoon of calcium powdered, 3 teaspoon of powdered spirulina.

    I mix it in the food processor for 90 seconds and added Agar Agar as a binder.



    My current discus love it. Next time I will add more components and fruits.

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    Fred, not sure if you know Nandi. His username is NanDiscus and he has been wildly successful with breeding wild Xingu and he experimented with different fruits. I will try and find that thread.
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    Hi Pat,

    Yes I've exchanged with Nandi. His Xingu adventure is one of the most interesting tread on this forum, in my eye, but that's me. I think the concept of keeping one specie from one region and trying to preserve it, is something that a Hobbyist can aspire to do well. The size can be managed by most hobby fishroom, the imports are available for new blood once in a while. This is what I want to do as a hobby, I've grown so disillusioned with domesticated discus, that wilds became the only answer. Plus your videos of your Cuipeuas simply tipped me overboard Cuipeuas are my leading candidate right now.

    The Heckel project is in parallel, but so different. This is a real challenge. A lot of mysteries, some limited success here and there, but We still are not seeing F2 or F3s. At least no one is really coming forward yet. Thanks for the link, I have visited it. I think nutrition is one key of the equation. A big key, fruits, flowers, nuts... They have been found in discus stomach. I'm taking the approach of adapting my aquarium and nutrition to the fish. For me this is a big experiment.

    Cheers,

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    [QUOTE=jawfish;1167223]Hi Cliff, I went to see in the TFH archive,,, Too bad you lost the male soon after,

    Cheers,

    Fred[/QUOTE

    Hi Fred,
    There is a picture on the pair in NADA's Website, under the photo gallery.

    Cliff

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    Hi Cliff couldn't find the picture.

    I admit being impatient for the new season to start. I'm still undecided as to wich region of Heckel I want to get. I'm debating between Namundha or Unini... They are distinct and in two opposite direction...

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    Last edited by jawfish; 08-06-2015 at 08:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jawfish View Post
    Hi Cliff couldn't find the pictur

    Cheers
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    Hi Fred,
    I think you have to be a member to look at the pictures. Might be a good time to join since there is a membership drive.

    Cliff

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    My bad Cliff,

    I was not looking into the forum. I found them. Pretty cool to see the fry in the bowl.
    p.s. Yes I'm already a member, but for those not a member yet, the membership drive is a good time to join.
    I will be at NADA 2016... Lets get a Heckel project meet with some cold beverages going on

    Cheers,

    Fred

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    This would be great if there is something about heckels going on at NADA 2016.

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    Tony if theres nothing official. We will definitly have some could beverage discussion going on.

    It will be my first NADA convention, Im counting on meeting some Heckel Pojects participants and would be participants. :-)

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by jawfish View Post
    Tony if theres nothing official. We will definitly have some could beverage discussion going on.

    It will be my first NADA convention, Im counting on meeting some Heckel Pojects participants and would be participants. :-)

    Cheers
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    Sounds good Fred, this will be my first time as well.So excited to go
    -Tony

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