Very Suddenly Sick

[roundfishross]

I would lean toward the voltage thing. are you using any dated equipment? old heaters etc...

always good to know whats in the mix, water tests can never hurt.

[moon_knight1971]

I didn't test my ammonia until yesterday so i'm not sure if I had a spike or not. Levels are good now. I know I killed all the good bacteria that was in my AC HOB. I am running a sponge filter too that has been running as long as the tank (3 months) and I figured rinsing the sponge media in the AC would be ok but guess not. I will also be adding a 2nd sponge inside the AC HOB this weekend so there will always be a back up and i will never rinse them within 2 weeks of each other.

[Second Hand Pat]

I would lean toward the voltage thing. are you using any dated equipment? old heaters etc...

always good to know whats in the mix, water tests can never hurt.

Bingo. Pump and heater I measure about 7 volts in the water. Heater only .3. Pump only about 5.0. Plus the salt I added will make that worst. New pump and heater plus BIG WC to remove the salt? Pump is about 18 months old and heater is 6 months old.

[Second Hand Pat]

Moon, sorry to hear that. Hard lesson to learn.

[jimg]

i don't mean to disagree but i think the voltage near the source may be normal, it's the amps that kill. I'm not that great with electric so I may very well be wrong.
I would also think the other fish would be effected too. I had a bad heater and got stings on my arm but the fish were never bothered by it.
My greens always fight and sometimes flip out for no reason when I walk by the tank banging into everything.

[Second Hand Pat]

i don't mean to disagree but i think the voltage near the source may be normal, it's the amps that kill. I'm not that great with electric so I may very well be wrong.
I would also think the other fish would be effected too. I had a bad heater and got stings on my arm but the fish were never bothered by it.
My greens always fight and sometimes flip out for no reason when I walk by the tank banging into everything.

So in talking with the hubby amp and voltage is fairly different. (no expert here). The multimeter can not measure amps. The conversion between the two requires resistance which is an unknown. So where does that leave me?? Maybe not spending 80 bucks replacing a pump.

[roundfishross]

i don't mean to disagree but i think the voltage near the source may be normal, it's the amps that kill. I'm not that great with electric so I may very well be wrong.
I would also think the other fish would be effected too. I had a bad heater and got stings on my arm but the fish were never bothered by it.
My greens always fight and sometimes flip out for no reason when I walk by the tank banging into everything.

Jims probably right, but it wouldnt hurt to have the tank grounded to rule out the problem. ground probes are cheap

[jimg]

Pat one thing i'm curious about.. the eye looks a bit bulged. is this the way it always was?

[Second Hand Pat]

In the first picture. Right? I though so to. I do not recall it looking bulged this morning. Would it still look bulged on fish now?

[jimg]

In the first picture. Right? I though so to. I do not recall it looking bulged this morning. Would it still look bulged on fish now?

Not sure, keep an EYE on the others. Could be from trauma.

[Second Hand Pat]

Jims probably right, but it wouldnt hurt to have the tank grounded to rule out the problem. ground probes are cheap

Place one end of the probe in the water and the other in the ground part of a three way plug?

[Second Hand Pat]

Not sure, keep an EYE on the others. Could be from trauma.

I just looked at the fish and the eye which appears bulged is black, like blood seeped into it. The other eye is normal.

[roundfishross]

Place one end of the probe in the water and the other in the ground part of a three way plug?

yup!http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...m+ground+probe

[Second Hand Pat]

Ya know Ross, sounds like an excellent idea for all the tanks. Good source of protection.

[roundfishross]

Ya know Ross, sounds like an excellent idea for all the tanks. Good source of protection.

certainly!