Heckel/Penanag Eruption croses

[JamesP]

I spawned a very large Blue Face Heckel with a Penang eruption and have ben raising the fry for a few months. The cross has produce two very distinct varieties. The Penang 14 stripes are one type and the second is the one I am most inetrested in. They are nine bared and apear to be coloring out much more like a Heckel including the center bar. I plan to raise the fry and cross either back to the male Heckel or other Heckels I curently have. I have read the stripes get lost or eradic in later generations. I hope by crosing with another pure Heckel wil help prevent this. Here are a few photos of the babies they are curently 3 1/2" plus. Their blue striations sem to start as spots and then turn into stripes and also start on the top of their heads and move back and down as they develop.

[fattubwhale]

They Are looking Good Jim!!! Cant wait till you are ready to let some go
BTW, Tefe's are doing pretty good too...

[m.ingram]

Nice looking little ones will be good to see how they colour up when they get bigger

[yim11]

Very nice looking fish, do you have pics of the parents please?

Thanks

[fattubwhale]

Very nice looking fish, do you have pics of the parents please?

Thanks

This is from one of Jims post on another thread...

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...-Heckels/page6

[hedut]

nice fry and good cross, keep us update

[YSS]

Interesting indeed ...

What made you to breed those two fish? The juvies look very nice.

[JamesP]

Glad the Tefe are doing well. I will most likely keep these guys until they are at least an inch bigger. They seem to color out slower just like the Tefe. Since pure heckels are not being raised I am not sure their rate of coloration is typical time will tell.

[JamesP]

Thanks I will post more photos in a few weeks.

[JamesP]

I liked the striations in both the Penang and the Heckel. I was not sure how the Penang 14 bars would come through. Roughly 50% have the 14 bars. Here is a photo of a 14 bar fry.

[TURQ64]

Here's a different view of a sibling; not to sound contrary, but I don't think this guy's gonna become 'unspotted' any time soon; they just keep popping out. Since I had seven of the mother's line,(I culled all but three, so don't tell willie!) I can definitely add that the Heckel genes contributed greatly to their roundness....Gary

[JamesP]

Gary,

Those guys are looking nice and your right some may not develop stripes. I knew you bought some of the fry that Willie had at the same time I purchased my adult female, but I was not aware that they're related to my female. Here is a photo of her. She is built more like a male with a nice forhead and threads on the dorsal. I also included a photo of the male Heckel.

[TURQ64]

Here's a couple of lousy photo's of your females 'relations'...F1's from the 'sister' of yours...willie currently has the pair that produced them..he obtained all from someone in Milwaukee who moved west....first photo is a 'nephew'



and a 'niece' if you will...



the female has produced wigglers with another male, who isn't doing well at present..I may put these two together, but I haven't any great expectations, other than the genes they are packing....

[Kingdom Come Discus]

Great Job James. I love the Tefes you sent me I will post pictures soon.

[JamesP]

Kraig,

I am glad you like them and I look forward to seeing pictures.

Jim