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    Quote Originally Posted by TURQ64 View Post
    I probably wouldn't recommend it..I took all of my Rams out of my Heckel tank. Too much competition for food. And with those Heckel's looking a bit thin, I'd be skipping any competition for food.....Gary
    hmm, that'll only be at a later when these fellas get more stable, and hopefully more pumped up... i'll take note!

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    Hey Root.. you can go ahead and order from Al .. I got my shipment of Freeze dried blackworms from Al in just 4 days all the way from US to India.. Great service and I must say my wild angels are all pampered now.. They eat nothing other than FDBW and NLS..

    Try it out pal.. Its great...
    Quote Originally Posted by Darrell Ward View Post
    Yeah, freeze dried blackworms can be sent through regular mail without problems. Getting skinny wilds is quite common. Dealers generally don't keep them long enough, or feed them enough to fatten them back up. There really is nothing better to put weight on wilds fast than blackworms.
    sure guys, i'll probably get some from illumnae to try if we've the chance to meet, and see how they like them... :-)

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    To be honest I believe Heckels and other wilds do best by themselves. Geos will get too big and will have the food gone before the discus get near it. Any when the Geos start to spawn.... you are in a world of trouble(speaking from experience)

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    Yeah, I generally keep discus alone in groups also. You never have any problems that way.
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    Sure would love to see more pic's hurry up and make some posts anything yada yada yada................Jim in Ohio

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    Yeah ROOT.. Go ahead and get some FDBW as fast as possible.. But I'm sure pretty soon you will have to order from Al as there's simply no stopping for FDBW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by damian_ireland View Post
    To be honest I believe Heckels and other wilds do best by themselves. Geos will get too big and will have the food gone before the discus get near it. Any when the Geos start to spawn.... you are in a world of trouble(speaking from experience)
    Quote Originally Posted by Darrell Ward View Post
    Yeah, I generally keep discus alone in groups also. You never have any problems that way.
    ok guys, i shall prob start with just them in the tank and make adjustments from there!
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    Yeah ROOT.. Go ahead and get some FDBW as fast as possible.. But I'm sure pretty soon you will have to order from Al as there's simply no stopping for FDBW.
    sure sure!!

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    Sure would love to see more pic's hurry up and make some posts anything yada yada yada................Jim in Ohio
    here're individual shots of them:
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    missing a last one!

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    Looks like a bit of bacterial finrot..newly aquired, or a fresh outbreak?....
    The meek shall inherit the earth. The oceans are for the brave.

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    ROOT.. looking great.. Will wait for daily updates on the fellows. Wish could travel to Singapore to see them in person.
    Best of luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TURQ64 View Post
    Looks like a bit of bacterial finrot..newly aquired, or a fresh outbreak?....
    Gary, what causes that?
    Your discus are talking to you....are you listening


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    Quote Originally Posted by TURQ64 View Post
    Looks like a bit of bacterial finrot..newly aquired, or a fresh outbreak?....
    these are newly acquired (well, got them last Friday)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by maximus View Post
    ROOT.. looking great.. Will wait for daily updates on the fellows. Wish could travel to Singapore to see them in person.
    Best of luck.
    thanks again man! dun think can see any difference with daily updates, i'll try to take new pics when they look more stable...

    Quote Originally Posted by Second Hand Pat View Post
    Gary, what causes that?
    i would like to know too, i thought the fins were burnt due to pH change or something, i could see some of them with the blackish edges in the bags before i brought them home... hope nothing too serious..

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    Bacterial finrot is identified by the jagged, serrated look of the edge of the fin.. a dose of salt will help. It's columnaris, always present to some degree in healthy fish..stress brings outbreaks on(the usual syndrome for pathogens)....I would get it check, but if it increases, switch to a PP bath and an antibiotic....
    The meek shall inherit the earth. The oceans are for the brave.

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    I'd check ammonia and nitrite before doing anything else. Both should be zero.
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    Furan-2 is the best locally available drug for columnaris, Root. I use it for my altums. These guys don't look at badly affected as altums usually are though

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcsb23 View Post
    I'd check ammonia and nitrite before doing anything else. Both should be zero.
    Always a good plan..since you stated that they were that way in the bag, I'll still place my bet on shipping induced stress, compromising the fish's immune system to a degree..Your fish; your call, matey...Gary
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