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    Ok, further to my post above, I have done some more research today and I may need to rethink the geo's...maybe a species only tank would be best...or maybe some rams & tetras will still work. The initial plan (determined partially by budget) is to house 6 medium discus in the 125 gal.
    I am still thinking some basic plants attached to wood (anubias, java fern, etc) and leaving the substrate planted plants out of the picture. I do think I will begin with a thin layer of inert sand and have a basic river stone and root wood aquascape that enables effective cleaning.
    My 125 gal currently has the rear glass painted black as that really enhanced the coloration of my cypho's. I think I have settled on either 4.5" valentine, 4-4.5" red melon/golden or 5.5" blue diamonds with teh dark blue gene, as the bright coloration really appeals to my wife & I, and they're stunning. Is the black background going to make the discus darker or will their colors pop nicely if the water quality and overall environment make them feel secure & happy?
    Is 1 x 300W heater going to be enough to get my temp to 82-84F?
    Thanks for any advice
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    Quote Originally Posted by danotaylor View Post
    Ok, further to my post above, I have done some more research today and I may need to rethink the geo's...maybe a species only tank would be best...or maybe some rams & tetras will still work. The initial plan (determined partially by budget) is to house 6 medium discus in the 125 gal.
    I am still thinking some basic plants attached to wood (anubias, java fern, etc) and leaving the substrate planted plants out of the picture. I do think I will begin with a thin layer of inert sand and have a basic river stone and root wood aquascape that enables effective cleaning.
    My 125 gal currently has the rear glass painted black as that really enhanced the coloration of my cypho's. I think I have settled on either 4.5" valentine, 4-4.5" red melon/golden or 5.5" blue diamonds with teh dark blue gene, as the bright coloration really appeals to my wife & I, and they're stunning. Is the black background going to make the discus darker or will their colors pop nicely if the water quality and overall environment make them feel secure & happy?
    Is 1 x 300W heater going to be enough to get my temp to 82-84F?
    Thanks for any advice
    Maybe this will help http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...-and-Questions.
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    Thanks Pat, good idea!

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    Quote Originally Posted by discuspaul View Post
    I'm finding the recent developments in this thread to be a touch confusing to me, so I guess I need some sorting out.
    It appears to me that a couple of earlier posts (other than those mentioned below) may not have been responded to.

    Have any of you, i.e.- drob 85; musicmarn1; or FishfromPhilly - had your questionnaire posts responded to yet - perhaps elsewhere, on another thread you may have begun ?

    If not, please say so, and I'll be happy to respond when I can.
    Confusing to me too Paul.
    Lots of views but no replies. SecondHandPat even copied my response to a separate thread, which I later discovered was something he suggested newbies do in the initial sticky thread.
    It seems to me that even though most longer term members thought the questionnaire was a great idea, when someone takes the time to fill it all out there is too much info for others to feel they can give a reply justice. It seriously took me about an hour to think through and answer the questions. The problem is as a discus beginner the questionnaire gives the newbie the idea that long timers here care and want to help so they take the time to fill it out in its entirety. Then when no-one takes the time or or has the inclination to respond to all the information sought by the questions, one feels like the time spent answering was wasted, and this is just like most of the other fish forums where there is lots of good intentions, but when it comes down to it it's really just every man for himself...sigh
    I can hear some say "you need to give it more time", "or you only posted 6 days ago", but lets be real, how often to we go back to a thread once it gets pushed down the pipe by new threads/replies being posted. I am a moderator on another forum, so I get that the volume is often overwhelming, and I have been guilty of the very thing that is vexing me know, LOL, but when I found the questionnaire I thought "wow I can get all my questions and plans vetted in 1 post and not have to do endless forum searches to find out what I need to know"...even though I did that as well, LOL.
    Anyways, end of rant. Kenny spent 25 minutes on the phone with me and emailed me a bunch of great info the other night to help me get started. Once I buy fish from him, it seems he will be my best and most available resource...
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    I've found that pretty much everything you need to know to start out in Discus keeping is already here. It's not even difficult to find, because it's all in the stickies on some of the sections. Even if a sticky doesn't seem relevant, there's a very good reason why it's a sticky. Especially in the beginners section. Anything specific I've been unsure of, like tank mates, adding wavemakers..... I've posted questions and got several responses. Perhaps it gets a little tiresome when someone posts here (not saying this is you Daniel), stating a full planted tank with discus and all manner of unsuitable fish, because clearly they have done hardly any, if any at all, research. I can imagine that to be really, rather tiring. That was going to be my initial plan, and my post on this thread went unanswered, but then when I started reading about growing out discus I realised my mistakes and quickly changed my plan. Generally speaking I've found the experienced keepers/mods to be most helpful since then.

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    Thx Rob. I am getting good downloads of info off the site, and have experienced members reaching out by PM as well. Feeling comfortable and confident now I have the basic info I need. Thx for posting mate!

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    Ok, further to my post above, I have done some more research today and I may need to rethink the geo's
    Geos work with Discus, but Geo's need sand and sand means you will struggle growing the Discus.
    So I suggest getting a couple of Geo's after your discus are fully grown and ready for a tank with sand.

    or maybe some rams & tetras will still work. The initial plan (determined partially by budget) is to house 6 medium discus in the 125 gal.
    Tetras, rams, Corys and a few other fish will work with Discus. I have a Tetras, Ram,Dwarf Gourami, Corys, Rasboras, Bristlenose Pleco, Otos, Kuhli Loaches, with the discus and have faced no issues at all.
    Some experts had stated that Discus wont eat as other fish might spook them. However from my experience, my discus boot everyone else out of the way and eat first, with everyone else left to pick up the scraps. Think the locally bred Discus are a lot more robust (or maybe its just mine).

    is to house 6 medium discus in the 125 gal.
    If your keeping only 6, you have plenty of space for an assortment of other fish with the discus. Just remember to quarantine them before adding them to the Discus tank.

    Is the black background going to make the discus darker
    Yes it will. Discus darken to match the background. Some varieties look better darkened while others don't. Many Discus keepers usually recommend light blue background.

    Is 1 x 300W heater going to be enough to get my temp to 82-84F?
    I'd say, it depends on how cold your country gets. If your talking really cold, better to add another heater. If you live in a warmer country like me, then one quality heater is probably adequate (my heater hasn't switched on for 2 months now as the water temperature is 30-32 without any heating).

    Disclaimer - I am very experienced in the fish hobby but am relatively new to Discus. However I did my research and asked many questions like you have. My guess is you haven't got many replies as every one of us shows up and asks similar questions and its probably frustrating for these guys to type the same thing for a 100th time.

    I'd suggest starting a thread in the Our tank journals part of the forums and record your journey into Discus keeping (I am doing that). Should be fun to read all your thoughts and see the pics of your tiny Discus say a year later and relive the memories.
    Cheers and best of luck.

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    Thank you Hidan. I appreciate you answering some of my qns. I too have kept fish for years, 35+actually, LOL. Since writing I have settled on a discus only tank with 10-12 x 3.5-4" fish to begin with, and a color change on my rear glass...not sure which color yet as my wife and I are thinking red melons/goldens from Kenny.
    Cheers mate,
    Danny
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    Danny, I saw your frustration a few posts up with not getting answers to your questionaire and understand where you are coming from. No one feels good about a thread they take the time think out and post that gets little or no replies. It is frustrating not just for novices but for anyone here. Ive had a FEW of those threads myselfand Ive been here a while lol. Sometimes its timing sometimes its who knows what.I am left scratching what little hair I have left trying to figure it out.

    Ive found that sometimes you need to be dogmatic. Ask again...repost or bump it up. You can also report a post or thread and ask for help. When a post or thread is reported an email is sent to all mods and admins. We can then try to get you help if we cant answer it. It is a volunteer group and sometimes we are just not able to be online or it just gets by us.

    The idea of the questionairs were basically a good one. It can save lots of back forth posting.Its also meant to force the poster to think about their tank and maybe flag their issues. I suggest answering the questions and then look at it and ask a question at a time. Its not so overwhelming then and we can look at the whole questionaire and make sure we are giving the best answer.

    I read your back posts and though you only have been here a few weeks and have under 50 posts, You have been posting and interacting with many members.. keep that up and ask questions there. Use the search function and again ask a question. Thats your best option.

    Im glad you spoke with Kenny and he helped.Hes agood guy always willing to do that. We have a bunch of people here that will help.. sometimes they just need a prodding


    Also... I dont know if you have seen this thread...
    http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...TCH-THIS-VIDEO!

    But the video there may help fill in some gaps if you havent watched it yet.The guy giving it is a bit long winded but Im told theres some useful info in it.lol.

    Anyhow.. drop me a pm if I can help. If I am online I will answer promptly..if I am not ..it will be less promptly but I will answer.
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    Thanks for writing Al. I appreciate hearing from you, especially since you took the time to make this site happen. I will heed your advice, and try to be a little more patient myself. Once I got the bug to come back to discus I became a bit childish in wanting what I wanted "now". Haha. I have since given up my childish ways and begun to interact on the site as you mentioned, and am now getting all the blanks filled in. Some very knowledgeable and ready to share people here for sure. A few diggers from "down under" as well, my home nation, so that's a ripper bonus as well.
    Once I get all my ducks in a row here, you will receive an order from me as well for some AFDBW w spinach and some discus chow pellets.
    Looking forward to the journey ahead! Cheers mate,
    Danny

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