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    My 4 juvies who I've had for 3 months are suddenly dying after my water change this morning!!!! they started not swimming right during the water change......PLEASE help me

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    Default Re: Help now now now.....please

    did you add prime/or other de-chlorinator..
    how did you add the water to the tank.. what did you use?
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    Hello, are the discus still alive? Is the biofilter working well ? How much ammonia / nitrite? Is the new water smelling like chlorine?
    If you are sure that the new water is good make a big water change, even if the water is not aged, or put the Discus in another container, with new water.
    If you have some, use water conditioner!
    Last edited by Ioan C.; 04-10-2012 at 09:43 AM.

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    I added the prime....but I filled the tank first!!!!! The tank was full for about 15 minuets prior to added the prime. I normally add it immediately!!! When I noticed then acting weird, I added the prime. In my panic, I also added salt. Now I notice that 3 of them are reviving. Their fins looked raggedy. Do you think there is a chance that they will make it???? I am soooooooooooooooooooooo upset!!!!!

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    The fourth one is now acting more normal.....Im still not sure what to expect! I think it had to be the chlorine, and my delayed use of the prime!! WOW! I am a wreck!!!!! What should I do now???? And btw, thank you so very much for your help, and your shoulder!!!!
    All tests show the water as normal...no ammonia etc......

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    Quote Originally Posted by krislewis3 View Post
    I added the prime....but I filled the tank first!!!!! The tank was full for about 15 minuets prior to added the prime. I normally add it immediately!!! When I noticed then acting weird, I added the prime. In my panic, I also added salt. Now I notice that 3 of them are reviving. Their fins looked raggedy. Do you think there is a chance that they will make it???? I am soooooooooooooooooooooo upset!!!!!
    HOW EXACTLY did you add water?
    buckets?
    if you used a HOSE.. what TYPE of HOSE did you use..

    WAIT>...................... i just reread
    you added water with chlorine into the Tank .. then when you noticed they were being affect by CHLORINE POISON.. you added prime..?! is this correct?!
    also.. are you treating with prime the ENTIRE TANK VOLUME!? or just the water you added?!
    you should be treating for ENTIRE TANK>.
    Last edited by Skip; 04-10-2012 at 10:19 AM.
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    Correct.,after filling the tank following a 75%wc, I failed to add the prime for 20min. Or so...normally, I add the prime immediately, for the amount of new water added!
    I don't use buckets...I use a hose that hooks to the kitchen faucet, from which I can vacume, remove water, and then fill from the same hose.....

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    1. your fish were probably suffering from Chlorine..
    2. always treat ENTIRE TANK no matter how much you add.. IF adding Directly to the tank..
    3. you still did not say what TYPE of Hose. is it a WATER HOSE, CLEAR python type hose.. water hose can leach toxic chemicals into tank.. thats why i ask..
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    If you smell chlorine in the water, or suspect it is there, always add water conditioner one hour before the water change.

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    The hose came from petsmart, and has only been used in aquarium. It's made of clear plastic!!!! Thanks for the advise...I didn't know to add for the tank volume each time. Should I add the prime PRIOR to filling the tank? All four fish now seem normal....I fed them, and they all ate normally. Do you think I have a good chance for a full recovery???? Is there anything else I should be doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ioan C. View Post
    If you smell chlorine in the water, or suspect it is there, always add water conditioner one hour before the water change.
    false
    adding water conditioner to REMOVE chlorine will do NOTHING for the water you ADDING During water change.. not before

    UNLESS You are talking about AGED water in another tank..

    you need to be more specific
    Last edited by Skip; 04-10-2012 at 11:32 AM.
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    Default Re: Help now now now.....please

    Say what??? Do I add prime before or after adding water?

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    Quote Originally Posted by krislewis3 View Post
    Say what??? Do I add prime before or after adding water?
    3.

    YES add prime at the TIME of Adding Water from TAP.. if you have 60 gallon tank.. but adding 30 gallons.. you add per directions the amount needed to treat the entire 60 gallons..

    DO NOT LISTEN to the other person.. that comment is false and not relevant to water changes

    they should recover.. *fingers crossed*
    just keep an eye on them.. and don't forget that chlorine is DEADLY to fish.. so ALWAYS add conditioner during the water change..

    i get my hose positioned and turn it on.. THEN i walk back to tank.. make sure hose is secure then add SAFE (its dry prime) to tank and wait till its full..
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    Than you very very much for all of your help.....I am hoping for a full recovery..they are looking better ( I am very surprised that they went from almost dead, to looking fairly normal in 1 hour or so.

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    great to hear.. !!

    now don't forget next time
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