Help now now now.....please

[strawberryblonde]

Yup yup, what Warlock said! Add the Prime or Safe at the beginning of the fill, not after it's filled.

I start warming my water at the tap, then walk back to the tank, toss in the Safe (equal to treating the entire 115g tank), stuff my poret foam block into the end of the siphon, plop it in the tank, then go back to the tap, hook up the hose and flip on my pre-warmed water faucets.

By doing it in that order I'm less likely to forget to add the Prime. (Not infallible though, ask me sometime about the day I forgot to turn my heaters back on...eeeeesh)

[Eddie]

Yup yup, what Warlock said! Add the Prime or Safe at the beginning of the fill, not after it's filled.

Always! Sorry to hear about the loss.

[MightyEvil]

What the HECK!?!?!?!

I have kept fish for over 9 years (consecutively) and I have never heard of adding prime/water conditioner while adding the water to the tank...

I have always put my water in the container I use to replenish my water, add the prime/conditioner there, fill that container with water and then fill the tank with that water...

I have read that adding the water directly to the tank and dosing prime/conditioner is not the way to do it because by the time the chemicals start working, the chlorine will already be inside the fish and cause damage little by little (and this makes sense to me)...

I have always done it this way and never lost a fish to a water change... Maybe I am understanding wrong but I dont know

[applekrate]

krislewis3-

Glad to hear everyone is on the mend

[Altum Nut]

I've always added my powered version of prime (Safe) directly to the entire tanks volume just before I crank open my fill hose attached to my tap. Never lost any fish.
I have added it during my start fill in the past but never after tank is already full.
Sorry for your loss.

...Ralph

[nc0gnet0]

If you dose your tank One hour prior to performing a water change, wouldn't you then end up removing half of it when you siphon the tank? Seems like a waste. Technically, the dechlor should still be active after an hour, albeit at a reduced concentration. Best time to add the dechlorinator is just after siphoning the tank, but prior to adding the fresh water. The reaction is almost instantaneous.

[Ioan C.]

Chlorine leaves the water in a few hours, so there is no chlorine in the old water, if it was more than a few hours in the tank. Therefore it is no reason to ad primer to the old water that was first in the tank, and it should be only added to the new water, and only for the amount of it, in the tank in which the new water is prepared for the next waterchange.
On the other hand, the primer needs a certain time to process the chlorine and the heavy Metals which may be present.
It is therefore self-evident that the water primer has to be added into the new water before the water change.
Please read the instructions for use of the water primer.
Chemical reactions need some time to stabilize itself.
It is therefore necessary to change the water first outside of the aquarium, and it should be done in it only if it behaves stable and the water values ​​are comparable with those from the Aquarium.

[Skip]

Chlorine leaves the water in a few hours after it no longer is under the pressure of the conduit, so there is no chlorine in the old water, if it was more than a few hours in the tank. Therefore it is no reason to ad primer to the old water that was first in the tank, and it should be only added to the new water, and only for the amount of it, in the tank in which the new water is prepared for the next waterchange.
On the other hand, the primer needs a certain time to process the chlorine and the heavy Metals which may be present.
It is therefore self-evident that the water primer has to be added into the new water before the water change.
Please read the instructions for use of the water primer.

how do you do your water changes..?

[magewynd]

Do water companies treat the water with chloramines in Germany? Are you talking about the same product?

Chlorine leaves the water in a few hours, so there is no chlorine in the old water, if it was more than a few hours in the tank. Therefore it is no reason to ad primer to the old water that was first in the tank, and it should be only added to the new water, and only for the amount of it, in the tank in which the new water is prepared for the next waterchange.
On the other hand, the primer needs a certain time to process the chlorine and the heavy Metals which may be present.
It is therefore self-evident that the water primer has to be added into the new water before the water change.
Please read the instructions for use of the water primer.

[Skip]

Do water companies treat the water with chloramines in Germany? Are you talking about the same product?

who knows what he means

[Orange Crush]

Chlorine leaves the water in a few hours after it no longer is under the pressure of the conduit, so there is no chlorine in the old water, if it was more than a few hours in the tank. Therefore it is no reason to ad primer to the old water that was first in the tank, and it should be only added to the new water, and only for the amount of it, in the tank in which the new water is prepared for the next waterchange.
On the other hand, the primer needs a certain time to process the chlorine and the heavy Metals which may be present.
It is therefore self-evident that the water primer has to be added into the new water before the water change.
Please read the instructions for use of the water primer.

Dechlor works almost instantaniously so it is best to add it just before you put the new water in the tank if you are using a python. You must add enough dechlor for the the entire volume of the tank not just the amount of water being added. This way the new water going into the tank can be dechlorinated (it is easier for the new water to "make contact" with the dechlor this way and thusly be neutralized). Doing it any other way is asking for trouble.

[Skip]

Dechlor works almost instantaniously so it is best to add it just before you put the new water in the tank if you are using a python. You must add enough dechlor for the the entire volume of the tank not just the amount of water being added. This way the new water going into the tank can be dechlorinated (it is easier for the new water to "make contact" with the dechlor this way and thusly be neutralized). Doing it any other way is asking for trouble.

USA USA USA!

[magewynd]

I agree with you Skip. This guy's answers are almost the direct opposite to the advice you have given or I would give. Not just on this thread.

OC, I do it that way too.

USA USA USA!

[Ioan C.]

Do water companies treat the water with chloramines in Germany? Are you talking about the same product?

Yes, they do sometimes, if it is necessary, not only in Germany, but in other countries to, ex.: Romania.

how do you do your water changes..?

I keep several hours, or days, 220 L (58,117g) Fresh water from the tap in a ton of polyethylene, so that the gases can escape. In a same large ton I keep 220 ​​L permeate.
In a 175 L (46,23g) barrel the fresh water is mixed to permeate at approximately 250μS/cm (about 8 ° dGH) and heated to 29 ° C. (84.2 °F) After about 30 min - 1 hour i put it in the aquarium.
In the past 20 years i never had chlorine in my water.

[krislewis3]

Next morning.........they seem ok!!!! Once again..your help was greatly appreciated!!!! Kris