Withdrawn: Pat's Contest Fish Wild Tefe F1 "Batch B"

[Second Hand Pat]

Holler and I will send you some videos. Those will for sure convince them lol.

[Dogvet06]

Heh i bet! Thanks. I will continue to drool over your pics.

[damba]

Those you look good. Thanks for this great thread.

I live in Eastbourne - the sunniest place in Britain. That isn't really saying much...
Coffee please - black and strong in pint mugs, for best results at least 6 a day.

[nc0gnet0]

Pat,

They do make a barely straw extract you can use, pretty common for ponds and a lot less hassle.

http://www.amazon.com/Microbe-Lift-3...+straw+extract

[Second Hand Pat]

Pat,

They do make a barely straw extract you can use, pretty common for ponds and a lot less hassle.

http://www.amazon.com/Microbe-Lift-3...+straw+extract

Thanks Rick, I already have the pellets. I placed about an oz in a small mesh bag and set it in my AC-30. I did note a better feeding response this morning. Not saying it is associated with the barley straw pellets due to the feeding response is slowly getting better with time.

[Second Hand Pat]

Well guys, I am reasonable sure I am withdrawing these guys from the contest. They are simply not thriving and as a group are between two and three inches and coming up on six months of age. If anyone has any suggestions I am all ears.

[Eddie]

Sorry to hear Pat. Will you be keeping any from the batch?

[nc0gnet0]

I would leave then in, it's all about finishing the race. It would be a good learning experiance to see if they can recover and grow out to normal adult size.....the extra three months will help you.

Rick

[Second Hand Pat]

Sorry to hear Pat. Will you be keeping any from the batch?

Not sure Eddie, guess if I withdraw myself I will put the batch back together and see if the increased numbers help. I do not think it will make much difference due to the low numbers.

I would leave then in, it's all about finishing the race. It would be a good learning experiance to see if they can recover and grow out to normal adult size.....the extra three months will help you.

Rick

I don't know Rick. I will think about it. There is something to be said for finishing the thing but another to have something worthwhile at the end based on time and effort.

[rdiscus]

Sorry to hear that Pat ... Wish you the best

[Kingdom Come Discus]

You have another 9 months Pat if the contest gets extended. If not a lot can happen in six months. I sure would hate to see you leave, but I would understand completely. Good luck!!!!!

[Trier20]

Sorry to hear Pat. Hope things turn around for ya. Hopefully my bad luck hasn't passed on to you

[Second Hand Pat]

Thanks guys, after an hour long chat with Kraig I am reluctantly going to continue. I am down to five fish and in an effect to clean them up I have gone through a 21 day treatment of prazi, a 10 day treatment of metro and flub based wormer plus from the UK. Basically a similar process when cleaning up adult wilds. These last two which passed had that closed zombie look so I expected this outcome. I caught one in the vac and that certainly didn't help.

The remaining five are alert and seem to be eating but a bit concerned about one of them. Paul has recommended a course of action regarding foods and feeding intervals. I will post pics and more update in a day or so. I will also add that I inserted a divider to the 40 breeder to corral them into a smaller space. I can not tell if that has helped yet.

[Harry Marsh]

Agreed with Rick

Regardless of the outcome, the information gained from any 'grown out' fish will be valuable.

[Second Hand Pat]

True, but I feel more can be gleamed from the process getting there. I am not sure what can be gleamed from producing wild F1 stunted fish. Unless they do not end up stunted which could show that a two year growth period could be an advantage.