Harry... loooove how your 8 are turning out. I'm taking pictures tonight off my gang and will have pics of the ones I got off you sometime this weekend. They're "dots" are starting to connect. Quickly beginning to be the ones I watch constantly as their stripes start to appear. Kenny & Forrests VR's are still growing fast as sh.... but yours are catching up!!! remember, they were younger than the VR's when I purchased both and the VR's are just genetically built to freak'n grow but your little dudes aren't dragging in growth and I'm very freak'n happy with them