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    Josie, pictures are sideways
    Your discus are talking to you....are you listening


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    Quote Originally Posted by Second Hand Pat View Post
    Josie, pictures are sideways
    LOL....Thats funny I wasn't sure what was going on...Josie
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    There's a strong side current in parts of my setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnhu View Post
    There's a strong side current in parts of my setup.
    As in the water?
    Your discus are talking to you....are you listening


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    Quote Originally Posted by Second Hand Pat View Post
    As in the water?
    The current goes from bottom to top, forcing the fish to swim and spawn sideways

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    Your discus are talking to you....are you listening


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    Ya'll need to split out the hook instead of letting him reel you in.....

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    The below is a good read.

    http://www.thewaterplanetcompany.com...ication%20.pdf

    Specifically,
    Ammonia (NH3 or NH4). When the pH of the wastewater is acidic or neutral, the majority of the
    nitrogen is ammonium (NH4
    +). When the pH increases over 8.0, the nitrogen is mostly ammonia
    (NH3).


    Here's another read,
    http://www.aquaworldaquarium.com/Art...ts/Ammonia.htm

    Specifically,
    At a pH of 6.0, and 10 ppm of TAN, the ammonia is only .007 ppm

    Hope this helps.
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    Hey Orange Crush,

    Not sure which thread you are referring to, but I'm sure it's old, and I'm sure it's probably not from this tank. My PH 7 tanks are normally the ones with much more frequent water changes, ie. my 46 gallon where I have my other Discus. Even at a pH of 7, the toxic level of ammonia is still way under 1 ppm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Crush View Post
    Okay then, I wish you the best of luck raising fry with 4ppm ammonia.
    Hi Orange, hope you didn't take it the wrong way, but this is just a log and I'm recording my findings as I go.

    Take care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnhu View Post
    Hi Orange, hope you didn't take it the wrong way, but this is just a log and I'm recording my findings as I go.

    Take care.
    Not at all. I was just hoping for more of an explanation about why you were wanting to raise fry with so much total ammonia. Since you are though I recommend Seachem's free ammonia test because api's test raises pH to test for total. Since ammonia is so toxic I prefer to go by total because if there is ammonia in my tank then there is something wrong and I want to know about it. Anyways good luck.
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    So your substituting proper biological filtration with low pH??

    Is the parent fish pictured one you raised with this method??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big-Ken View Post
    So your substituting proper biological filtration with low pH??

    Is the parent fish pictured one you raised with this method??
    Hi Ken,

    No, the parents were not raised by me, but rather they were about 4-5 inches when I got them Dec of 2010. To be perfectly honest, this pair has been in the 10G for just about a year now. I don't substitute biological filtration with low ph, I generally substitute biological filtration with plants though.

    I've been noticing with this pair that they begin to spawn about 4 days after a water change. This time I let them do their thing and when I finally saw wigglers, I took the water parameters and decided to keep a log. These are the results.

    Was there something you wanted to comment about the quality of the parents?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Crush View Post
    Not at all. I was just hoping for more of an explanation about why you were wanting to raise fry with so much total ammonia. Since you are though I recommend Seachem's free ammonia test because api's test raises pH to test for total. Since ammonia is so toxic I prefer to go by total because if there is ammonia in my tank then there is something wrong and I want to know about it. Anyways good luck.
    Oh, you misunderstood me Orange. I'm not looking to raise them in any ammonia, just happens that they were born into those parameters. I'm looking to remove any trace of ammonia nitrite and nitrates for these little guys.

    Thanks for your concern.

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    Just got done putting together a BBS hatchery for my first batch. I'll have to get a few more bottles and get a couple more going. This will have to do for now.

    I made a lid using the cut out to prevent salty splashes.

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