I would have recommended letting the fish rest with no meds for at least a week in normal temperature water, and no Beefheart mix...small feedings offered of easy to digest foods..and removed if uneaten. If that did not allow the fish to recover on its own and the fish was important to you, I would have suggested using kanamycin and metronidazole in the water at the same time, or if kanamycin was not availible I would have suggested using oxytetracycline or minocycline(maracyn 2) and Metronidazole concurrently. Normal temperatures, large daily water changes before dosing. Both methods can be very effective at dealing with internal bacterial infections especially those of the digestive track and organs, IME.
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I admit I was wrong. Yesterday the fish was showing a little bloating in the high temp. I stopped heating and lowered the temp to 82 over the night. I did a large water change in the hospital tank this morning. The bloating has gone. I just fed a tiny pinch FDBW and it ate. There was still stringy clear feces in the tank this morning. I will get some antibiotic medication from Angelsplus. I don't think it will recover itself because it only ate FDBW recently.
I will order some Kanamycin Sulfate. Is that the same as kanamycin?
The price of kanamycin is a little bit high. I probably will get Neomycin Sulfate.
Are these two meds harming bio filter?
Last edited by wencui; 12-04-2014 at 03:40 PM.
Hi Wencui,
The Kanamycin sulfate and Kanamycin are the same, don't use Neomycin though...its not as well absorbed. Better to get oxytetracycline or minocycline (LFS sell as a maracyn2) if you can't get the Kana. Dose the metro at 400 mgs/10 gals water. Yes these med can affect biofilters temporarily which is why its critical to do huge water changes daily before dosing. The Dose for the Kana or oxy depends on what you get.
http://jehmco.com/html/medications.html is showing all of them, not sure if they are in stock
Be Patient with the fish.. eating is a good sign, the feces you see is not something to panic on... Stress alone will cause that, best to let the fish rest a bit, unless it starts bloating .. if it does, you can try epsom to relieve the bloat..
hth,
al
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Not sure what the tank temp was when you decided to stop the treatment, but as I stated earlier, gradual increase and decrease is very important according to my source. He recommended raising a couple of degrees a day until the temp reached 96. You can go up to 98 if fish can handle it. If you started the heat treatment two days ago and you lowered the temp to 82 over night, that's a lot of temp swing in two days. Patience is key when treating sick fish. Good luck with the treatment.
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Go with the kanamycin. Oxytet doesn't work well in alkaline water (ph above 7.0)
I would give the fish at least 7 days from the end of the metro treatment before you start it on an anti-biotic
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Give an update. The fish has almost recovered completely. After I stopped heat treatment, I couldn't watch so many white/clear feces. Ordering the medication on line needs a week. The fish seemed suffering. I went to Petsmart and bought T.C. Tetracycline. After one day bath, the fish increased its appetite and largely decreased white feces. Today is the second treatment. The feces has become normal and the fish has been eating veraciously
She is such a beautiful brilliant turk.
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Last edited by wencui; 12-07-2014 at 11:08 PM.
First I am glad the fish is on the mend. However, to give credit to the anti-biotic is a bit misleading. They just don't work that fast I am afraid, pretty sure you would have seen the same results with just good clean water and a little patience. At any rate congrats!
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Happy to Hear Wencui!
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An update.
After 10 days Tetracycline bath treatment, the fish has fully recovered.