Al's Wild F1 Growouts

[Second Hand Pat]

Thanks Pat
They really don't sit still for a second and it's hard to seperate them visually.

John, how about a video?
Pat

[slicksta]

You sure do like your videos... Lol :-D
Let me see if I have some time tonight as the lighting is much better then. No direct light but I get a lot of reflection from my sunporch during the day.

[Second Hand Pat]

You sure do like your videos... Lol :-D
Let me see if I have some time tonight as the lighting is much better then. No direct light but I get a lot of reflection from my sunporch during the day.

Sounds good John, I think video's are easier when showing a group of fish.
Pat

[peewee1]

You sure do like your videos... Lol :-D
Let me see if I have some time tonight as the lighting is much better then. No direct light but I get a lot of reflection from my sunporch during the day.

Why not close in that sun porch? You would be able to cut out that reflection altogether.

[slicksta]

I don't know what you're smokin' peewee... But it's got to be good! :-D

[Second Hand Pat]

Why not close in that sun porch? You would be able to cut out that reflection altogether.

I don't know what you're smokin' peewee... But it's got to be good! :-D

I think what John is trying to say is it a sun porch for a reason.
Pat

[slicksta]

Yes it is.
A nice room with glass on three sides and the forth side open to my kitchen and dining room showering them with natural light.
It is my favorite room in the house :-)

[LizStreithorst]

I built a room like that but I had to put a bank of cages in front of one side. I had to turn it to a dog grooming room. It was the best place because all my stuff fits and the light is great.

[Second Hand Pat]

These F1s are growing like mad. Measured one of the larger ones today with a ruler and it was 3.5 inches. These guys are exploding with growth on live worms and shape wise getting quite decent.



Pat

[danotaylor]

Coming along nicely Pat. The live worms are making bank for ya there by the looks!

[Second Hand Pat]

Coming along nicely Pat. The live worms are making bank for ya there by the looks!

Definitely Danny, added nearly an inch of growth since I started feeding the live blackworms
Pat

[LizStreithorst]

I miss feeding live worms more than I can express. Freeze dried are excellent, but there's something about the wiggle factor that make them irresistible to the fish. The other big plus is that you absolutely cannot over feed them. The worms stay alive on the bottom of the tank and the fish can brows on them all day long.

[Second Hand Pat]

I miss feeding live worms more than I can express. Freeze dried are excellent, but there's something about the wiggle factor that make them irresistible to the fish. The other big plus is that you absolutely cannot over feed them. The worms stay alive on the bottom of the tank and the fish can brows on them all day long.

I bet you do Liz and totally "get" that. All the fish get excited when I walk into my little fishroom hopeful of live worms lol. I feed the live worms to the F1s several times a day and only what they can clean up in a few minutes. I feed other foods and want them hungry enough to eat that.
Pat

[fljones3]

Pat,

You might have answered this. What live worms do you feed? Where do you get them?
You probably raise them yourself?

Frank

[LizStreithorst]

They are blackworms. They look just like tubifex but they must be raised in pristine water, same as Discus do. The nick name for tubifex is "sewer maggots" which tells you which you should feed.

Nobody can raise them. There was one guy who had a quite elaborate set-up to raise them and he bought a ton of them. I have never heard anything. It would have been posted here on Simply years ago.

They have to be raised in man made ponds with clean water coming in and the water in the pond draining out. Dan used a river that had never failed him, but with the drought and and then the fires, he isn't raising near as many as he used to. FedEx Overnight rates have gone up which makes them even more expensive than they were several years ago.

There is another blackworm farm somewhere but I don't know anything about them.