Now way Pat. There is a reason they are never in a picture. Lol they might be a TL of quarter size now and heavily peppered and just not happy. I kinda feel bad about doing this and separating the group. Lost what now 25 found the one dead that went into the bucket doing WCs last night. If I had a spare ten gallon they would be going in there. That 20 is much too large for that "group" now. A fun exciting thing has definitely turned to a disappointing adventure. Lol bright side is that their siblings next to them are growing like weeds! I think that is what is depressing. I have lost maybe two total out of that tank and 25 out of my contest tank. It's a bummer.