Good lord, Flip. I have never even heard of this parasite before. My go to Discus disease man is Discus Hans. Paul Butler comes to mind as well. I'll get in touch with them and see if either of them have any experience with it.
Has anyone ever seen this in discus or ever deal with it ?
From my browsing hours spend on net and here in particular it seems that this disease or better yet "condition " is fairly rare and unusual I discus fish .
That's why I wanted to share and document my experience , and maybe find someone who have successfully deal with it .
My BD is most affected , but some other discus have it too , and it's been affecting it for more than a year I guess without any visible harm or progression .
Here is a video of this not very harmfully but ugly looking parasite disease and any other members experience with it is welcomed :
BD is most affected but it's also visible on the second SS discus on the video :
http://youtu.be/yjbLHb5bpSA
Good lord, Flip. I have never even heard of this parasite before. My go to Discus disease man is Discus Hans. Paul Butler comes to mind as well. I'll get in touch with them and see if either of them have any experience with it.
Mama Bear
Hard to tell from the video, but are the spots flat like peppering, or raised? I’m totally unfamiliar with this just asking out of curiosity.
Thanks for your help Liz . I can surely use some expert advice because it seems that this stuff is very rare and unusual in discus fish.
I'm only guessing that it is Neascus flat worms because that's the only thing that appear when you seaech the net for Black spots fish disease .
One thing that sticks out and do not fit the description for Neascus worm disease that I found on net is, that black spots on My BD are embedded in to the skin of the fish and do not stick out nor they can be felt by touch .
Black spot disease, black cells surround by
Dark Cysts and small Dark spots sometime show up in Silver Dollars and Tangs. They are treatable with medication.
Cliff
do you know what med is used, Cliff?
Mama Bear
Flip, I'm still on this. I haven't contacted either of my guru's because I haven't had contact with either of them for a long while. I didn't want to bother them until after the holiday. I hope we can figure it out. You sure can't sell fish if they might harbor such an ugly parasite.
Mama Bear
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Thanks for your help and support Liz . Let's wait and see if Hans or Paul will respond back and offer some solution here.
Meanwhile I'm thinking of trying a classic dose PP dip / bath of 5-10 minutes with 10 ppm solution .
This is the first time im hearing of Picric Acid and it's use in fish treatments Cliff . I tried to Google about it and very little if none experiences came out . Im not even sure where it can be obtained and what types (flammable /nonflamable ) and % of Picric Acid are available on the market and TBH I'm not feeling very confident using it without fully understanding it . Thanks for the advice though , I've certainly learned something new regarding discus medicine cabinet .
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Black Spot Disease mentioned in Fish Disease Diagnosis and Treament by Dr. Edward J.Noga page 163-166.
Treatment: Praziquantel bath.
Grasshopper
Francis
Hello lovely, poacher turned gamekeeper eh Happy New Year!
Pat messaged me so here I am …
Hi Filip, have you taken a sample from the fish? Before hitting it with any chemo I'd be tempted to try and nail down what it is your dealing with. If it is a parasite causing these spots then it would be visible under a scope - assuming each spot is a single instance. Have you removed a scale or tow over a spot at all? It generally doesn't do any long term harm. I would look at the scales removed to see if they are discoloured. Also has the fishes behaviour changed? any flicking/flashing type behaviour? (this would be expected with a parasite). I'd also expect the spots to be slightly raised if is blackspot as the spot is a cyst.
If it is blackspot there must be a host or intermediate in the tank - usually snails. So if you remove the host/intermediate, the blackspot will die out. Looking at the vid I can see it has plants and what looks to be at least one snail.
I would expect praziquantel to work well if it is blackspot. You could also isolate the fish in a qt tank for a few weeks and see if that changes anything. Note that the discolouration is melanin I think so may not go away or go away slowly. It is also possible that what you are seeing now are the after effects and there is no active disease - if the other fish are free of these spots and no further spots are developing then it suggest there are no active parasites.
Hope that helps.
Paul
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