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Second Hand Pat
01-12-2013, 10:32 PM
Most of the Cuipeua in the 230 have gotten quite red from the breeding activity.


http://youtu.be/n7Il8QEwXak

Second Hand Pat
01-12-2013, 10:44 PM
Some pictures.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Cuipeua%20in%20the%20230/DSC_1313_zps0606b518.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Cuipeua%20in%20the%20230/DSC_1312_zpsd5dfa98c.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Cuipeua%20in%20the%20230/DSC_1311_zps454a25db.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Cuipeua%20in%20the%20230/DSC_1307_zpsec770bf4.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Cuipeua%20in%20the%20230/DSC_1309_zps095c03f6.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Cuipeua%20in%20the%20230/DSC_1305_zps05ed7547.jpg

Discus-n00b
01-12-2013, 10:55 PM
So jealous pat!!

Dogvet06
01-12-2013, 11:28 PM
Very nice ;)


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daffyfish
01-12-2013, 11:30 PM
Awesome!

Kingdom Come Discus
01-12-2013, 11:33 PM
Pat the fish are gorgeous as well as the tank. Something about that Florida water.

rdiscus
01-12-2013, 11:53 PM
not the water ... wild in good hand ... look awesome Pat

Second Hand Pat
01-12-2013, 11:57 PM
So jealous pat!!

Your time will come Matt :D


Very nice ;)

Thanks Jaimie

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Awesome!

Thank you too.

Kingdom Come Discus
01-13-2013, 12:00 AM
not the water ... wild in good hand ... look awesome Pat
I agree 100%

Second Hand Pat
01-13-2013, 12:03 AM
Pat the fish are gorgeous as well as the tank. Something about that Florida water.

Thanks Kraig :D you should see them in person, they are unbelievable.


not the water ... wild in good hand ... look awesome Pat

Oh wow Ryan thanks.

Poco
01-13-2013, 02:17 AM
Simply stunning Pat! Love to have some wilds like that one day.

D/I/S/C/U/S
01-13-2013, 02:21 AM
we nvr get wilds like that around here -.-

Bud Smith
01-13-2013, 09:07 AM
Pat - very nice up close pics -very nice wilds - if I ever start a wilds tank you would be one person I would want pick their brain for info

YSS
01-13-2013, 11:57 AM
Hats off to you, Pat. Your fish are unreal. I am sure you have it described somewhere, but would you mind letting me know your husbandry detail for the tank?

Moon
01-13-2013, 01:16 PM
WOW That'a all I can say Pat.

Second Hand Pat
01-13-2013, 05:27 PM
Simply stunning Pat! Love to have some wilds like that one day.

Babar, talk to Len :)


we nvr get wilds like that around here -.-

Talk to Mark (Discus Origins). These Cuipeua came from him last year. He may still have some red based wilds left.

Second Hand Pat
01-13-2013, 05:28 PM
Pat - very nice up close pics -very nice wilds - if I ever start a wilds tank you would be one person I would want pick their brain for info

Thanks Bud, I have only been at this two year so hardly an expert but happy to help if I can :D

Second Hand Pat
01-13-2013, 05:34 PM
Hats off to you, Pat. Your fish are unreal. I am sure you have it described somewhere, but would you mind letting me know your husbandry detail for the tank?

Thanks Yun, pretty simple, nine discus in a 230 with two 50% WCs per week. 1/3 tap to 2/3 RO targeting a TDS of around 80 to 100. I may need to go a little lower with these guys since they are eating the wigglers. The tank has a sump and I change out the filter media (not bio) as needed every week or two as needed. Temp on the tank while spawning is about 78. 82 otherwise.

Second Hand Pat
01-13-2013, 05:34 PM
WOW That'a all I can say Pat.

Thanks Joe :)

chaoslite
01-13-2013, 06:16 PM
Very Jealous Pat. Great fish and pictures!!

Mishka

Second Hand Pat
01-14-2013, 11:17 AM
Very Jealous Pat. Great fish and pictures!!

Mishka

Thanks Mishka. Looks like we will have another spawn today. Pair were pretty frisky this morning.

YSS
01-14-2013, 11:59 AM
Thanks Yun, pretty simple, nine discus in a 230 with two 50% WCs per week. 1/3 tap to 2/3 RO targeting a TDS of around 80 to 100. I may need to go a little lower with these guys since they are eating the wigglers. The tank has a sump and I change out the filter media (not bio) as needed every week or two as needed. Temp on the tank while spawning is about 78. 82 otherwise.

Thanks, Pat. Anyother fish other than discus?

darcy
01-14-2013, 12:26 PM
AWESOME!! Do you by chance need a helper? I can live in a box or sleep close to the fish tanks!!:)

Second Hand Pat
01-14-2013, 12:39 PM
Yun, there are a herd of sterbai and three whiptail catfish (actually a pleco) and two tetras I have not been able to catch. With these wilds wanting to breed all the time I am learning the value of a discus only tank.

Second Hand Pat
01-14-2013, 12:40 PM
AWESOME!! Do you by chance need a helper? I can live in a box or sleep close to the fish tanks!!:)

I could always use some help. How do you feel about a barn. :D

darcy
01-14-2013, 12:59 PM
PERFECT!!

Second Hand Pat
01-14-2013, 10:10 PM
Another huge spawn :)

Dogvet06
01-14-2013, 10:53 PM
Awesome job as alway! I know i know its the water not u


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Second Hand Pat
01-14-2013, 11:24 PM
Definitely not me :D

Discus Origins
01-15-2013, 02:05 PM
Pat,

They continue to eat wigglers even though the pair is separated?

Second Hand Pat
01-15-2013, 03:49 PM
Mark, I have not separated them yet. Tonight the divider goes in. :)

chaoslite
01-15-2013, 03:50 PM
Pat,

No pictures?

Mishka

Second Hand Pat
01-15-2013, 04:01 PM
Sorry Mishka, I was busy last night. Maybe tonight.

Discus Origins
01-15-2013, 06:38 PM
Mark, I have not separated them yet. Tonight the divider goes in. :)

I have a feeling they will stop eating the fry once separated :)

Second Hand Pat
01-15-2013, 07:36 PM
Me too Mark

Second Hand Pat
01-15-2013, 09:43 PM
Pat,

No pictures?

Mishka

Here you go Mishka...

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1384_zps96d29df3.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1382_zps1bea0329.jpg

and dad

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1381_zpsafb45aa8.jpg

Second Hand Pat
01-16-2013, 04:46 PM
Whew, the divider is in and no freak outs :D

Second Hand Pat
01-17-2013, 07:21 PM
and we have wigglers tonight. :D

chaoslite
01-17-2013, 07:44 PM
Gorgeous and congrats, Pat!!

Mishka

Second Hand Pat
01-17-2013, 10:17 PM
Gorgeous and congrats, Pat!!

Mishka

Thanks Mishka

Second Hand Pat
01-17-2013, 10:19 PM
Spawn 3. Pictures are not easy but tried anyway.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1422_zps332e64e4.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1419_zpsfca0ce82.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1418_zpse130f741.jpg

Dogvet06
01-17-2013, 10:26 PM
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Second Hand Pat
01-17-2013, 10:29 PM
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Hi Jaimie lol

Pardal
01-17-2013, 10:40 PM
Awesome, Pat !!!

Julian.

Dogvet06
01-17-2013, 10:40 PM
It was a :D but didn't come through lol


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Second Hand Pat
01-17-2013, 10:45 PM
Awesome, Pat !!!
You have the chance to placed the divider this time right?

Julian.

I did Julian. You can see the edge of it in the first two picture. The green thing along to edge of the picture.

DiscusBR
01-18-2013, 07:19 AM
I am following the thread closely, Pat. Beatiful pics. Good luck with the new batch. Did you put the divider?

Second Hand Pat
01-18-2013, 07:23 AM
Thanks Mauro and yes, the divider is in. ;)

Second Hand Pat
01-19-2013, 11:57 AM
Should go free swimming tomorrow

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1431_zpsb2428014.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1432_zpsed31265d.jpg

Poco
01-19-2013, 12:04 PM
Did you count them Pat?

Second Hand Pat
01-19-2013, 12:09 PM
No lol. I will count them if I get to remove them from the tank in about four weeks. :)

Second Hand Pat
01-19-2013, 12:21 PM
Did you count them Pat?

Babar, got to 87 and figure there is another 20-40 so I will go with 120.

chaoslite
01-19-2013, 06:37 PM
Very nice to see Pat.

Mishka

Second Hand Pat
01-19-2013, 11:44 PM
Very nice to see Pat.

Mishka

Thanks Mishka :)

Second Hand Pat
01-21-2013, 12:37 PM
Free swimming has commenced. Looks like a swarm of tiny bees around the parents. Pictures later if the parents remain quiet and still if I approach the tank.

rdiscus
01-21-2013, 12:46 PM
Can't wait for pictures :)

DiscusLoverJeff
01-21-2013, 01:38 PM
Awesome Pat. Thats how many kids now, 300 or 400? Lost count on your last batch.

Keep up the good work!

Second Hand Pat
01-21-2013, 02:16 PM
Jeff, my estimate after counting 87 wigglers is 120. That's plenty big enough.

Second Hand Pat
01-21-2013, 02:20 PM
Can we say challenging conditions under which to take pictures. Pictures are dark but you can see the fry. As you can see there is some attachment occurring. Also there is way more fry then you can see in the pictures.

I adjusted the midrange colors and you can see the fry better.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1438_zpsf522be71.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1435_zps120fd740.jpg

Mom trying to hide.
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1437_zpsc6f03f42.jpg

and mom
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1434_zps7f80d376.jpg

Discus-n00b
01-21-2013, 02:24 PM
Congrats Pat. You need a tv show, fish whisperer LOL

Second Hand Pat
01-21-2013, 02:29 PM
Matt, I hate those reality shows. Way to much drama. Someone did mention ebooks however :D

Dogvet06
01-21-2013, 04:49 PM
pretty cool!

DiscusBR
01-21-2013, 05:08 PM
Congratulations!!! :balloon: :bounce2: :balloon:

rdiscus
01-21-2013, 06:23 PM
Cool, love to see wild with fry ... Congratulations!

Second Hand Pat
01-21-2013, 07:44 PM
pretty cool!

Thanks Jaimie :)


Congratulations!!! :balloon: :bounce2: :balloon:

Thank you too Mauro


Cool, love to see wild with fry ... Congratulations!

Me too Ryan, a lovely sight indeed

Second Hand Pat
01-21-2013, 07:49 PM
Here's an ipad video of the pair with fry. As you can see attachment is not complete. After I removed the ipad dad moved forward and collected the wayward fry.


http://youtu.be/LlmxkxWyqcM

Second Hand Pat
01-22-2013, 10:07 PM
Played with the speed light tonight. Pictures are not great but you can see some fry.

Too harsh.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1446_zps8eae0375.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1456_zpsb4797848.jpg

A bit dark

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1458_zps2b0138cc.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1460_zps97da4cbb.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1461_zps23a668c1.jpg

Second Hand Pat
01-23-2013, 11:52 PM
Three days old. Look at the top of the back fish.


http://youtu.be/lW1m01SnQsQ

Disgirl
01-24-2013, 09:59 AM
Very cool! How many fry do you count? Good luck with them Pat,
Barb

Second Hand Pat
01-24-2013, 02:31 PM
Thanks Barb, I am guessing 40 to 50 fry but I find I am horrible at guesstimating when they are on the parents.

Second Hand Pat
01-27-2013, 12:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt55X_MMGjI

DiscusBR
01-27-2013, 11:59 AM
Mom taking the kids for a sun walk :)

Second Hand Pat
01-27-2013, 12:39 PM
Mom taking the kids for a sun walk :)

Looks like it Mauro. As you can see she is not fond of me hanging around with an ipad.

Pardal
01-27-2013, 08:38 PM
Awesome Pat beautiful, keep it coming!:)

Julian.

Second Hand Pat
01-27-2013, 08:59 PM
Thanks Julian, they are getting big. Seven days tomorrow.

chaoslite
01-27-2013, 10:16 PM
Pat they are looking good.

Mishka

Keith Perkins
01-27-2013, 11:00 PM
Well I finally caught up on this thread, very nice Pat.

Sman
01-27-2013, 11:21 PM
Your fish are just beautiful . All I can say is wow! I have not been able to get mine (Heckels) to become wigglers ...They still just eat them .Oh yeah your pics are great .

Kingdom Come Discus
01-27-2013, 11:50 PM
They are looking great Pat!!!!

Jeff O
01-28-2013, 01:09 AM
Everything looks awesome pat!
-jeff

Second Hand Pat
01-28-2013, 01:16 AM
Pat they are looking good.

Mishka


Well I finally caught up on this thread, very nice Pat.

Thanks Mishka and Keith

Second Hand Pat
01-28-2013, 01:18 AM
Your fish are just beautiful . All I can say is wow! I have not been able to get mine (Heckels) to become wigglers ...They still just eat them .Oh yeah your pics are great .

Thanks, are you breeding Heckel to Heckel or the fish in your avatar? Good luck with them.

Second Hand Pat
01-28-2013, 01:19 AM
They are looking great Pat!!!!


Everything looks awesome pat!
-jeff

Thanks Kraig and Jeff

Chad Adams
01-28-2013, 10:04 AM
Wow Pat! Those look amazing!

Chad

discuspaul
01-28-2013, 08:49 PM
Looks like those parents are doing a fine job so far, Pat. Congrats.
And do I ever love your superb group of wild reds !
Gotta get me some.

Second Hand Pat
01-28-2013, 09:20 PM
Wow Pat! Those look amazing!

Chad

Thanks Chad, I think so too. :D


Looks like those parents are doing a fine job so far, Pat. Congrats.
And do I ever love your superb group of wild reds !
Gotta get me some.

Thanks Paul, these parents are doing a great job with these fry. I was bad for not getting a good seal on the divider and believe that is the reason the fry group is rather small now. There is still enough to bother with however. ;)

DiscusBR
01-28-2013, 09:23 PM
The big question now is: when will you start your Heckel breeding project? That is all that is left for you now :)

Second Hand Pat
01-28-2013, 09:35 PM
The big question now is: when will you start your Heckel breeding project? That is all that is left for you now :)

Mauro, I have a lot of ground to cover before I would even consider that like raising problem free F1s. Besides you aren't doing to bad yourself :D

Second Hand Pat
01-28-2013, 11:57 PM
Seven days old tonight. Not exactly warm colors with the speed light but at least you can see the little ones.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1529_zps74a0fc29.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1526_zps52f0fe7e.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1524_zpsf0cf866d.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1527_zpsfa88bf6f.jpg

DiscusBR
01-29-2013, 12:01 AM
Mauro, I have a lot of ground to cover before I would even consider that like raising problem free F1s. Besides you aren't doing to bad yourself :D

Pat, I just got luck, that is all :) But thanks anyway.

Nice pics. Are they taking BBS?

Second Hand Pat
01-29-2013, 12:03 AM
I have not started yet. I had to order more BBS eggs :o so should come tomorrow.

Second Hand Pat
01-31-2013, 12:29 AM
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1541_zps9a05780c.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1540_zps8182c37f.jpg

chaoslite
01-31-2013, 12:48 AM
Wow. Such gorgeous color Pat. Great photos!!

Mishka

Second Hand Pat
01-31-2013, 12:54 AM
Thanks Mishka, mom will let me take pictures of her with the fry but dad hides from me when he has the fry.

Second Hand Pat
01-31-2013, 10:10 AM
Started offering these guys BBS last night. No takers yet.

bobdon
01-31-2013, 02:28 PM
NICE PHOTOS

Dogvet06
01-31-2013, 02:43 PM
Have u turned down the speed lite yet? Seems like its washing them out. Are the fish close to the surface? I know they have some nice color and I wanna see it!


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Second Hand Pat
01-31-2013, 03:05 PM
NICE PHOTOS

:o


Have u turned down the speed lite yet? Seems like its washing them out. Are the fish close to the surface? I know they have some nice color and I wanna see it!


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Jaimie, I tried to do that but not sure I was successful. Setting recommendation?

Dogvet06
01-31-2013, 09:03 PM
Mine interActs with camera and the camera tells it how bright to be. I need to see what it's set at


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Dogvet06
01-31-2013, 10:18 PM
Mine is set on ETTL which makes it talk to camera. If fish are too close to flash they wash out. Do u have a diffuser on the flash? If not I would get like a whit styrofoam box and point flash up inside box and have it bounce off the box


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Second Hand Pat
02-02-2013, 06:54 PM
Mine is set on ETTL which makes it talk to camera. If fish are too close to flash they wash out. Do u have a diffuser on the flash? If not I would get like a whit styrofoam box and point flash up inside box and have it bounce off the box


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Thanks Jaimie

Second Hand Pat
02-02-2013, 07:05 PM
12 days old and finally starting to take a little BBS


http://youtu.be/pC706yHklb8

Second Hand Pat
02-02-2013, 07:34 PM
Mom is off and on dark

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1565_zps0a2027de.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1563_zpsad2f777c.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1560_zps82088ed4.jpg

Second Hand Pat
02-04-2013, 11:49 PM
14 days old

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1613_zps9e2e059e.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1614_zps7b221fbe.jpg

I count 18 on this side
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1615_zps2273b6ce.jpg

Dogvet06
02-04-2013, 11:50 PM
Growing nicely ;)


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Second Hand Pat
02-04-2013, 11:53 PM
Very much so Jaimie. We should very soon see the babies adding height.

Second Hand Pat
02-05-2013, 06:43 PM
Hard to keep these little guys in focus. 15 days old today.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TctQHEoMerU&list=UUaeXQ_wwjMmbU52-KYBqNJg&index=1

Second Hand Pat
02-06-2013, 10:53 PM
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1632_zps7943ad43.jpg

Poco
02-07-2013, 12:02 AM
Nice! How many are there in this spawn?

Second Hand Pat
02-07-2013, 12:06 AM
I have counted 18 but suspect there are a few more. :D

chaoslite
02-07-2013, 12:16 AM
Looking good Pat.

Mishka

Second Hand Pat
02-07-2013, 12:23 AM
Thanks Mishka :)

Second Hand Pat
02-08-2013, 12:37 AM
Eating bbs in the big tank


http://youtu.be/iYzkesoFr4U

dougstar
02-08-2013, 11:53 AM
your wilds are very good looking discus. i live in south africa so for me to have such good looking discus is almost impossible, enjoy you are very lucky!
cheers dougstar

Second Hand Pat
02-08-2013, 05:13 PM
Thank you Dougstar

sammy
02-08-2013, 07:21 PM
OMG these fish are AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sman
02-08-2013, 08:29 PM
i am trying Heckel to Heckel ...That picture is from my quarentine tank . when I got some new discus .

Second Hand Pat
02-08-2013, 11:07 PM
OMG these fish are AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks Sammy, I think so too.

Second Hand Pat
02-08-2013, 11:07 PM
i am trying Heckel to Heckel ...That picture is from my quarentine tank . when I got some new discus .

Good luck Sman, everyone's dream

Sman
02-10-2013, 08:21 PM
Thank you so much ...I feel like I'am chasing my tail...I just wish I had more time for them.

Second Hand Pat
02-12-2013, 12:48 AM
21 days old. Seems like they should be a bit taller. Ugly little buggers


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCEv39OHUDg

Trier20
02-12-2013, 02:13 AM
Looking good Pat!

Second Hand Pat
02-12-2013, 11:02 AM
Looking good Pat!

Thanks Brandon :)

Trier20
02-12-2013, 12:00 PM
Thanks Brandon :)

I love watching little fry. I can just sit and watch for hours at a time with my guys :)

chaoslite
02-12-2013, 02:42 PM
Same here Brandon. Pat they look great how many would you say there are now?

Mishka

Second Hand Pat
02-12-2013, 02:46 PM
About 20 Mishka, there would have been more if I have sealed the divider properly.

chaoslite
02-12-2013, 03:17 PM
The things that we do not do properly! Shaking my head over here. I got a list of things that I have not done on my wall.....lol

Mishka

Second Hand Pat
02-12-2013, 03:49 PM
Me too lol

Second Hand Pat
02-14-2013, 09:06 PM
Getting big

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1657_zps651f3419.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1654_zps4d910155.jpg


http://youtu.be/i30B5tt0bp8

Kingdom Come Discus
02-14-2013, 10:36 PM
Looking great Pat. Please send Dexter some. He needs more great stock. It won't be long and he will be among the greats in discus breeding!!!

Second Hand Pat
02-14-2013, 10:38 PM
Thanks Kraig, who is Dexter??

Discus Origins
02-15-2013, 12:44 AM
They are looking nice Pat, starting to look like discus :)

Second Hand Pat
02-15-2013, 12:49 AM
Thanks Mark, they are really putting on the height. :)

Second Hand Pat
02-15-2013, 06:08 PM
I need to pull these guys and get a new tank them a new tank. There are about 20 of them. I am thinking a 10 starting and then a subdivided 40 once they settle and grow a bit. Suggestions?

Second Hand Pat
02-19-2013, 01:14 AM
28 days old today and totally independent from mom and dad but still watched by both.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1722_zpse4ad605c.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1721_zps402ce93f.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1720_zps888a98ea.jpg

Still do not quite look like discus

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1717_zps684661cf.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1714_zps0ef430b6.jpg

Second Hand Pat
02-19-2013, 01:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGMUkJlevOc

Second Hand Pat
02-19-2013, 10:09 AM
I bought home a 10 gallon last night. Thinking with only 18 fry this is a good starting size for a small spawn at four/five weeks of age.

Trier20
02-19-2013, 10:18 AM
I bought home a 10 gallon last night. Thinking with only 18 fry this is a good starting size for a small spawn at four/five weeks of age.

I agree Pat. Keep the food from getting away from them. Keep up the good work!

Second Hand Pat
02-19-2013, 05:52 PM
I agree Pat. Keep the food from getting away from them. Keep up the good work!

Thanks Brandon :)

Second Hand Pat
02-22-2013, 12:19 AM
Looks like I may have another pair forming. Seeing black tails and beat up fins on the other side of the divider.

DiscusBR
02-22-2013, 12:45 AM
Looks like I may have another pair forming. Seeing black tails and beat up fins on the other side of the divider.

Wonderful news! You never stop surprising us, Pat.

Second Hand Pat
02-22-2013, 12:46 AM
It's the fish Mauro. Not me. ;)

jprit68
02-22-2013, 01:44 AM
Beautiful Discus Pat.Wish I could fit your aquarium in my condo.Guess I'm stuck with my 72 bow.
I have one wild(green) and other four our domesticated.Have to say the wild one is the BOSS in my aquarium.
Keep up the awesome job.

Jeff O
02-22-2013, 01:52 AM
They look great!
-Jeff

Pardal
02-24-2013, 07:32 PM
Nice little bugs Pat, Your posting keeps me up to date, while in the Hotel here in Norfolk Va. Love the Red Turquoise too they going to be awesome fish.

T.C
Julian.

Second Hand Pat
02-28-2013, 08:52 PM
Beautiful Discus Pat.Wish I could fit your aquarium in my condo.Guess I'm stuck with my 72 bow.
I have one wild(green) and other four our domesticated.Have to say the wild one is the BOSS in my aquarium.
Keep up the awesome job.

Thanks jprit68 :D


They look great!
-Jeff

Thank you too Jeff

Second Hand Pat
02-28-2013, 08:53 PM
Nice little bugs Pat, Your posting keeps me up to date, while in the Hotel here in Norfolk Va. Love the Red Turquoise too they going to be awesome fish.

T.C
Julian.

Thanks Julian, once you get to Fla there could be all kind of things happening around here. ;)

Second Hand Pat
02-28-2013, 08:56 PM
33 days old and the parents still guard the fry. It really is time for me to pull these guys.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1787_zpse17e64a3.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1785_zps1b2c749f.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1774_zpse7a0a465.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1783_zpsb7c0c227.jpg

chaoslite
02-28-2013, 09:12 PM
Cute little buggers. You are making me miss my little fry.

Mishka

Second Hand Pat
02-28-2013, 09:19 PM
Mishka, none of your guys are on fry?

Second Hand Pat
03-02-2013, 11:48 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOQTFDCQ3io&list=UUaeXQ_wwjMmbU52-KYBqNJg&index=1

marinum
03-11-2013, 03:32 AM
great work of nature! I wanted to ask you some questions:
the couple is alone?
speak to us of the tank and the filter?
You can make panoramic images?

Congratulations again is a wonderful dream

Second Hand Pat
03-11-2013, 10:28 PM
Since this bad boy got to spend some time alone with all girls he has decided he wants some action now that the divider is out. Those are bite marks on his side. Prior to this this fish was a sissy.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1843_zpsc6451913.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1844_zps6b139dcc.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1848_zps2d54cb73.jpg

Second Hand Pat
03-12-2013, 04:06 PM
great work of nature! I wanted to ask you some questions:
the couple is alone?
speak to us of the tank and the filter?
You can make panoramic images?

Congratulations again is a wonderful dream

Thanks Marinum, the couple is in a divided 230 (US gallons) biotope tank which gets two/three 40% WCs per week. The tank has nine Cuipeua in the tank with a group of cories and a couple of plecos. The tank has a large sump with poret form for the bio-media. Very simple setup really with a low bio-load. Water makeup is an 2/3 RO to 1/3 tap mix with a target TDS of about 80. Ph 7.2, Kh 4dKH and GH 4dGH.

chaoslite
03-12-2013, 04:40 PM
Mishka, none of your guys are on fry?

Pat,

I sold all of the fry and had to cull the whole SS spawn so no I do not have any fry. Yours are looking great.

Mishka

Second Hand Pat
03-12-2013, 04:45 PM
Mishka, I culled the Cuipeua fry Monday morning. I discovered a couple dead, fins closed and swimming listlessly like zoomies. Sorry to hear you culled your SS spawn.

Discus Origins
03-14-2013, 12:27 AM
Since this bad boy got to spend some time alone with all girls he has decided he wants some action now that the divider is out. Those are bite marks on his side. Prior to this this fish was a sissy.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1843_zpsc6451913.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1844_zps6b139dcc.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/Wild%20Cuipeua%20Christmas%20Spawn/DSC_1848_zps2d54cb73.jpg

Wow, Pat....this guy has really developed and started to color up nicely. He wasn't so much to look at before but I guess he decided its his turn :)

Second Hand Pat
03-14-2013, 12:46 AM
Mark, he is seriously strutting his stuff and looks amazing. I almost like him now. :D

Second Hand Pat
03-14-2013, 03:20 PM
The Cuipeua pair laid their fourth spawn yesterday. Looks to be a large spawn.

Kingdom Come Discus
03-15-2013, 12:25 AM
Best of Luck Pat!!!

chaoslite
03-15-2013, 12:30 AM
Mishka, I culled the Cuipeua fry Monday morning. I discovered a couple dead, fins closed and swimming listlessly like zoomies. Sorry to hear you culled your SS spawn.

Pat,

I am sorry to hear that. That is exactly what happened to the SS spawn. Not sure what this issue was but since they were also the fry from the "Oh the stupidity of me" thread I was thinking maybe they did not handle the switch of tanks very well. No idea really but I was not happy.

Mishka

Second Hand Pat
03-18-2013, 08:51 PM
Thanks Kraig and Mishka :)

Should have free swimming tomorrow. Divider is in place.

timmy82
03-19-2013, 04:34 AM
Good work :o

jobber
03-19-2013, 07:57 AM
Great documentation Pat. Glad I caught this thread while trolling through the vast amount of info.

Sent from my mobile phone

Second Hand Pat
03-19-2013, 08:40 AM
Thanks Jobber, you should take a stroll through my homestead. Lots in interesting things in there :)
Pat